THE GRENVILLE PAPERS: BEING THE CORRESPONDENCE OF RICHARD GRENVILLE EARL TEMPLE, K.G., AND THE RIGHT HON: GEORGE GRENVILLE, THEIR FRIENDS AND CONTEMPORARIES. NOW FIRST PUBLISHED FROM THE ORIGINAL MSS. FORMERLY PRESERVED AT STOWE. EDITED, WITH NOTES, By WILLIAM JAMES SMITH, Esq., FORMERLY LIBRARIAN AT STOWE. IN FOUR VOLUMES.—VOL. HI. LONDON: JOHN MURRAY, ALBEMARLE STREET. 1 85 3. LONDON: PRINTED BY WOOD FALL AND KINDER, ANG8L COURT, SKINNER STREET. IL CONTENTS OF THE THIRD VOLUME. Page Introductory Notes relating to Lord Temple and the Authorship of Junius......................................xiii 1765. Lord Clive to Mr. Grenville. January 5.—Voyage to India. Cape of Good Hope. Manilla expedition. French intentions of forming settlements in India.......................... 1 The Bishop of Gloucester to Mr. Grenville. January 12.—His pretensions to the Bishopric of London . .... 2 The King to Mr. Grenville. January 29 . . . . .4 Mr. Grenville to the King. January 30.—Summary of the debate on General Warrants.......................................4 Mr. Grenville to the King. March 5.—Duke of Athol. Pur- chase of the Isle of Man ....... 6 The King to Mr. Grenville. March 5.—The physicians advise him not to talk on business. His Majesty will grant a pension to the Duke and Duchess of Athol..........................7 Mr. Grenville to the King. March 5.—Summary of the debate in the House of Commons upon ex-officio informations by the Attorney-General..........................................7 The King to Mr. Grenville. March 9.—On the Mutiny Act in America, and the question of quartering soldiers in private houses . . . • • • • • • • *11; Mr. Grenville to the King. March 9.—On the same subject . 12 The King to Mr. Grenville. March 11.—Purchase of land in the park at Richmond ....... 14 The King to Mr. Grenville. March 13 . . .14 a 2 iv CONTENTS. 1765. Page Mr. Grenville to the King. March 22.—Treaty for the payment of money due for French prisoners..................................14= The King to Mr. Grenville. March 22 . . • • .15 Minute of a Cabinet meeting respecting the King’s intentions to propose a Regency Bill. April 5 . . . • . .15 The Earl of Halifax to Mr. Grenville. April 9.—The King’s seem- ing satisfaction at the Minute of the Cabinet on the Regency Bill 16 Mr. Grenville to the Earl of Halifax. April 10.—The King’s Speech to be prepared by Mr. Grenville . . . .17 The Earl of Mansfield to Mr. Grenville. April 20.—Opinion on the construction of the King’s Speech . . . .19 Mr. Grenville to the King. April 24.—Summary of the debate in the House of Commons on the Address . . . .21 The King to Mr. Grenville. May 7.—Desires to know how the Regency Bill was received.........................................-22 Mr. Grenville to the King. May 7.—Debate on the Regency Bill..............................................................23 Mr. Grenville to the King. May 9.—Enclosing report of the debate in Committee upon the Regency Bill . . . .25 The King to Mr. Grenville. May 10.—On the alteration in the Regency Bill proposed by the House of Commons . . .34 Mr. Grenville to the King. May 11.—Regency Bill passed. Debate on the third reading ....... 34 The King to Mr. Grenville. May 11.—Satisfaction at the debate on the Regency Bill.................................; . .37 The Duke of Cumberland to Earl Temple. May 14.—Desires his presence in town . . . . . . . .37 Earl Temple to the Duke of Cumberland. May 15 . . .38 The Duke of Cumberland to Earl Temple.' May 15 . . .38 The Eai’l of Sandwich to Mr. Grenville. May 20 . . .38 The Earl of Albemarle to Earl Temple.; May 19.—The Duke of Cumberland desires Lord Temple to meet him at Hayes . 39 The Honourable Augustus Hervey to Mr. Grenville. May 20._____ Attempts the reconciliation of Lord Temple and Mr. Grenville 39 The King to Mr. Grenville. May 21 ..... 40 Minutes of a Cabinet meeting at Mr. Grenville’s in Downing Street, to consider the terms on which the Ministers would consent to remain in office. May 22 ... . 41 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. May 22—[Memoranda relating to the reconciliation of the two brothers.—Note.'] . .42 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. May 22.—Their interview and reconciliation....................................................... 4 $ The Duke of Bedford to Mr. Grenville. May 22.—Interview with the King............................... 1765. CONTENTS. v Page Mr. Grenville to the Lord Chancellor. May 23 . . .44 The Bishop of Gloucester to Mr. Grenville. May 30.—Claims to his patronage and friendship.......................45 Mr. Almon to Earl Temple. June 15.—On the subject of his trial for the publication of the Letter concerning Libels and Warrants .......... 46 Mr. Grenville to the Earl of Sandwich. June 17.—Uncertain situation of political parties ....... 49 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. June 19.—The question of General Warrants in the Court of King’s Bench. Attachment against Almon. Government of Gibraltar offered to General Irwin ........... 50 The Earl of Sandwich to Mr. Grenville. June 19.—The Lord Chancellor’s narrative of Mr. Pitt’s interview with the King . 52 Mr. Grenville to the Earl of Sandwich. June 20.—Laments the difficulties of the King and Kingdom, but declines returning to town until the time appointed by the King . . . 55 The Earl of Sandwich to Mr. Grenville. June 20.—The Lord Chancellor has another interview with the King . . .56 Mr. Grenville to the Earl of Sandwich. June 21.—On the pend- ✓ ing negotiations for the change of Government . . .58 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. June 21.................60 Mr. Pitt to Earl Temple. June 22.—Mr. Pitt’s second audience of His Majesty. The King desires to see Lord Temple . .60 The Earl of Sandwich to Mr. Grenville. June 22.—Mr. Pitt’s audience of the King ........ 62 Mr. George Onslow to Earl Temple. June 25.—Implores him to accept office......................................63 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. June 25 . . . .64 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. July 2 . . . . .64 Lord Hyde to Mr. Grenville. July 7.—On the Ministerial Crisis. > [Two letters from Mr. Charles Townshend to Lord Townshend, July 3 and 4.—On the proposed Cabinet arrangements, his interview with Lord Rockingham, and his opinion of the failure of the late negotiation with Mr. Pitt and Lord Temple.—Note.'] 65 The Duke of Bedford to Mr. Grenville. July S . . 69 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. July 9.—Death of the Duke of Bolton........... 70 The Earl of Northington to Mr. Grenville. July 10.—Dismission from his office . . . . . . .71 Lord Lyttelton to Earl Temple. July 11.—Requested by the Duke of Cumberland to take part in the new arrangement, which he declines ...... . 71 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. July 14 . . . . 72 vi CONTENTS. 1765. Page Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. July 24.— Describes the various changes consequent upon the new Administration . . ‘ ' ^ Mr. George Orslow to Earl Temple July 29. Excuses for his acceptance of office, as a Lord of the Treasury, under Lord Rockingham..............................................^ Lord Camden to Earl Temple. August 7 . . • • 77 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. August 8.—Resolution of the Assembly in Virginia. Instability of the present Government. Irresolution of Charles Yorke. Mr. T. Pitt. Colonel Barre. Lord Shelburne . . . • • • • .78 Sir Armine Wodehouse to Earl Temple. August 26.—Desires to know whether Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt approve of the present arrangement of Government ...-•» 9 Mr. Charles Lloyd to Mr. Grenville. August 29.—Humphrey Cotes. The City Address................................80 Mr. Mackintosh to Earl Temple. August 30.—Secret information respecting the King’s opinion of his Administration. Duke of Cumberland. Mr. Charles Yorke and Sir Fletcher Norton. Beardmore and the City Address . . . . . .81 Earl Temple to Sir Armine Wodehouse. September 5.—Considers the present system of Government weak and insufficient. Mr. Pitt had no share in the formation of it . . . .85 Mr. Edmund Burke to Mr. Charles Lloyd. October 1.—Reasons for Mr. Lloyd’s dismissal from the Receivership of Gibraltar, by Lord Rockingham ........ 86 Mr. Augustus Hervey to Mr. Grenville. October 3.—Ministerial intrigues. The Duke of Newcastle. The Duke of Cumberland. Lord Bute at Court. Manilla ransom. Duke of Grafton and Mr. Pitt .......... 87 Mr. Augustus Hervey to Mr. Grenville. October 12.—Visit to Stowe. Charles Townshend and Lord Bute. Duke of Grafton. Sir George Macartney. Treaty with Russia. Deanery of Windsor. David Hume.....................................89 Mr. Humphrey Cotes to Earl Temple. October 13.—Mr. Mackintosh’s interview and conversation with General Graeme, the Queen’s Secretary. Wilkes. Wood, the Under-Secretary of State. Embassy to Constantinople . . . . .92 Earl Temple to Mr. Mackintosh. October 13.—Remarks upon the conversation with General Graeme, and the Minutes which had been delivered to the Queen on the subject of a secret plan for superseding the Rockingham Administration, and bringing Lord Temple into office..............................96 Mr. Hans Stanley to Mr. Grenville. October 14.—Lord Rockingham’s offers to restore him to office................98 1765-1766. CONTENTS. vii Page Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. October 17.—Reception of the Stamp Act in America. Political rumours. Lord Bute, Lord Holland, and Lord Townshend . . . .100 Mr. Pitt to Earl Temple. October 29.—Intention to part with his house at Hayes. Mr. Thomas Walpole. Column at Burton Pynsent..............................................101 Mr. Augustus Hervey to Mr. Grenville. October 29.—Political gossip. Lord Rockingham and Mr. Stanley. Lord Holland . 103 Mr. Augustus Hervey to Mr. Grenville. November 2.—Account of the death of the Duke of Cumberland. Landing troops at Martinico. Prince Frederick . . . . . .105 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. November 8.—Political rumours. Lord Bute and his friends. Riots at Boston. Great fire near the Bank of England.........................................107 Mr. Knox to Mr. Grenville. November 28.—Communicates his pamphlet on the Stamp Act...................................109 Mr. Jenkinson to Mr. Grenville. December 15.—The King’s Speech and the Address . . . . , . .110 Mr. Grenville’s Diary of Memorable Transactions: continued from vol. ii. p. 535 . . . . . . . . 112 to 227 1766. Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. January 15.—A present of one thousand pounds *.............................................227 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. January 15 . . . 227 Lady Chatham to Earl Temple. January 20 . . . 228 Earl Temple to Lady Chatham. January 20 . . . . 228 Lady Chatham to Earl Temple. January 23 . . . 229 Earl Temple to Lady Chatham. January 24 . . . . 230 Mr. Pitt to Mr. Grenville. February 8.—Apology for leaving the House of Commons while Mr. Grenville was speaking . .231 Mr. Grenville to Mr. Pitt. February 8...........................232 Mr. Wilkes to Earl Temple. May 15.—On his sudden return to England.......................................................232 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. May 23.—Provision for the Dukes of York and Gloucester. General Conway and the Duke of Richmond. Various offers to Charles Townshend. Lord Rochford. Lord Egmont. News from America. [Letter from Dr. Moffatt to Dr. Styles on American affairs: corrected by Lord Lord Rockingham and Sir George Savile.—Note.~] . ■ . 234 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. May 24.—Bill of indemnification for not having used Stamps in America. Lord North to be ViceTreasurer of Ireland. The Free Port Bill .... 238 viii CONTENTS. 1766 Page The Bishop of Carlisle to Mr. Grenville. May 27.—Lord Hard- J wicke. Lord Rochford. Commotions in America. Wilkes and the Government ....••••• 240 The Bishop of Carlisle to Mr. Grenville. May 29.—Debate in the House of Lords on the Window Tax. Lord Temple and the Seizure of Papers Bill. Lord Howe’s resignation . . . 242 Mr. Fraser to Mr. Grenville. June 10.—Desires authority to contradict a report that Lord Temple was the author of a pamphlet entitled A History of the late Minority .... 244 Mr. Grenville to Mr. Fraser. June 11. . . . . 245 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. June 13.—On the report about Lord Temple, and the History of the late Minority. Dr. Lloyd. Lord Tyrawly . . . .......................246 Mr. Nugent to Mr. Grenville. June 17.—News from America. Joy at the repeal of the Stamp Act. History of the late Mino- f rity................................................. 248 Mr. Grenville to Mr. Nugent. June 21.—Repeal of the Stamp Act. Assures him that Lord Temple neither advised nor encouraged the publication of the History of the late Minority . 250 z Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. June 25.—Mr. Charles Lloyd. Mr. Wedderburn’s conversation with Lord Bute. Mr. Pitt. The Lord Chancellor’s audience of the King. Accounts from America. Sons of Liberty at New York . . . .251 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. June 29.—Mr. Wedderburn. Lord Eglintoun and Mr. Dyson. News from the East Indies. Sir James Lowther ........ 253 Mr. William Gerard Hamilton to Earl Temple. July 1.—General discontent in the Cabinet. Political rumours. The Lord Chancellor. Lord Hertford. Lord Holland. Lord Egmont. v Duke of Newcastle. Lord Albemarle. Mr. Charles Town- shend ........................................................... Mr. Jenkinson to Mr. Grenville. July 6.—Tour in France. Reception at the Chateau d’Harcourt. Sedan. Rhosny . . 258 Mr. Wedderburn to Mr. Grenville. July 9 . . . . 260 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. July 11.—Mr Pitt sent for by the King......................................................262 The Lord Chancellor to Earl Temple. July 13.—Summons to attend the King ........ 263 Earl Temple to the Lord Chancellor. July 14 . . . . 263 The Lord Chancellor to Earl Temple. July 15 . . . 264 The Duke of Bedford to Mr. Grenville. July 16.—Mr. Pitt. - Lord Temple. General Conway. Duke of Richmond . . 264 The Lord Chancellor to Earl Temple. July 17.—The King. Lord Temple’s audience . . . .266 1766, CONTENTS. IX Page Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. July 18.—Returns to Stowe after his audience of the King, having declined office . . . 267 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. July 19.—Various causes assigned for Lord Temple’s refusal. Mr. Pitt’s progress in forming a Government ......... 268 Earl Temple to Earl Gower. July 19.—Apology for having nominated him as a person he wished to be Secretary of State. Reasons which rendered it impossible for him to enter into the King’s service on the present occasion . . . . .272 Mr. Grenville to Mr. Whately. July 20.—Remarks upon the late negotiation. Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt. The new arrangement of the Ministry . . . . . . . .273 Earl Temple to * * * * * July 20.—Conferences with the King and Mr. Pitt ........ 277 Mr. Nugent to Mr. Grenville. July 22 .... . 278 Lady Chatham to Earl Temple. July 22 . . . . .279 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. July 29.—The new Ministerial appointments . . . ’ . . . . . . 280 Mr. Charles Lloyd to Mr. Grenville. July 29.—Arrangement of the Administration. Mr. Pitt to be created Earl of Chatham. Lord Rockingham and Mr. Pitt............................282 Mr. Hans Stanley to Mr. Grenville. July 29.—Acceptance of the Embassy to St. Petersburg..........................284 Countess Temple to Mr. Glover. July 29 .... 285 Mr. William Gerard Hamilton to Earl Temple. July 30.— Cabinet arrangements. Lord Rockingham and Mr. Pitt. Mr. Charles Yorke. Lord Bute. The effect of Lord Temple’s refusal upon the Bedford party.......................286 The Countess of Chatham to Earl Temple. August 2 . . 289 Mr. William Gerard Hamilton to Earl Temple. August 3.— Lord Camden and Lord Northington. Lord Rockingham and Mr. Pitt. Duke of Newcastle. Duke of Bedford . . . 289 Mr. Charles Lloyd to Mr. Grenville. August 5.—Pamphlet entitled An Enquiry into the Conduct of a late Right Honourable Commoner. Lord Northington’s Pensions . . . 292 The Earl of Hillsborough to Mr. Grenville. August 6.—Excuses for accepting office under the new Government. Alteration at the Board of Trade . . . . . . . .294 Mr. Grenville to Sir John Glynne. August 7.—Answer to inquiries relating to the Temple Pedigree, with reference to a Fellowship of All Souls’ College.......................296 Mr. Grenville to Mr. Charles Lloyd. August 8.—Mentions some errors relating personally to himself in the pamphlet entitled An Enquiry into the Conduct of a late Right Honourable Commoner .......... 298 X CONTENTS. 1766. Page The Earl of Suffolk to Mr. Grenville. August 8.—Remarks upon the late transaction . . - . . ... 300 Mr. Jenkinson to Mr. Grenville. August 10.—His residence at Paris.......................................................... Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. August 20.—Offers made by the Duke of Grafton to the Duke of Bedford and Lord Gower, through the medium of Lord Tavistock. Evident desire of the Government to divide the Grenville and Bedford interests . 302 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. August 21.—The Earls of Bute and Chatham already upon ill terms. Lord Temple’s suspicion of the Bedford party..................................... • 305 Earl Temple to Mr. Humphrey Cotes. August 24.—Disapproves of a letter in the newspapers from Cotes in defence of his (Lord Temple’s) conduct......................................... 306 Mr. William Gerard Hamilton to Earl Temple. August 25.— Lord Gower’s refusal of the Admiralty. Negotiations between Lord Chatham and the Bedfords. Lord Ligonier. Lord Bute. Lord Shelburne and Lord Lyttelton ..... 307 Mr. Charles Lloyd to Mr. Grenville. August 29 and 30.—Lord Gower’s willingness to accept office. Letter from the Duke of Bedford to the Duke of Grafton opened at the Post Office. Lord Chatham complains that Lord Temple is the encourager of all the abuse against him.—[The Post Office and Secret Service Money.—Note]........................................310 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. September 5.—Mr. Mackenzie’s appointment to the Privy Seal of Scotland. Lord Bute’s opinion of the Administration. Lord Temple disavows all connection with the authorship of any pamphlets upon the present occasion. Rumours of negotiation with the Bedford party. Abuse of Lord Chatham..........................................312 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. September 5.—Newspaper paragraphs. Affairs of America. Designs of the Government relative to the East India Company . . . . 315 Lord Clive to Mr. Grenville. September 8.—The Army in India. General mutiny among the officers. Court Martial. Combination to assassinate the Commander-in-Chief. . . . .317 Mr. Wedderburn to Mr. Grenville. September 9.—Nothing yet known of the intended measures of Government. The Master politician invisible on the pinnacle of Hampstead Hill . .320 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. September 20.—Visit to Woburn. Lord Gower and the Duke of Grafton.............................321 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. September 21.—Intended proceedings at the Meeting of Parliament..........................322 Mr Wedderburn to Mr. Grenville. September 25.—East India 1766. CONTENTS. xi Page Company. Debate in the Court of Directors. Lord Clive’s dispatches ...............................................323 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. September 26.—Administration # ready to treat with any party. East India affairs . . .325 Earl of Buckinghamshire to Mr. Grenville. October 9.—Inter- view with Lord Shelburne. Offer of the Embassy to Spain . 327 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. October 10.—The Dukedom of Northumberland. Policy of Lord Chatham towards Lord Bute and his friends...........................................329 Mr. Whately to Mr. Grenville. October 20.—Political gossip. Intentions of the Opposition. Charles Townshend. The Duke of Grafton. East India Company. The embargo on Corn. Land Tax. The Dukedom of Montagu . . . . .331 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. November 10.—Account of an interview with the Duke of Bedford ..... 337 The Earl of Mansfield to Mr. Grenville. November 10.—Opinion respecting the prohibition to export Corn. A wrong attack positively made upon a popular step, would turn into occasion of triumph .......... 337 Mr. Grenville to the Earl of Mansfield. November 10.—In reply, upon the same subject . . . . . . . - 339 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. November 18.—Debate in the House of Commons on the Indemnity Bill. Mr. Grenville and Aiderman Beckford...........................................311 Earl Temple to Mr. Grenville. November 20.—Warm approval of his conduct in the House of Commons .... 343 Mr. Grenville to Earl Temple. November 21.—Second reading of the Indemnity Bill: the Bedford party promise to support Mr. Grenville. Lord Edgecumbe’s dismission. Mr. Burke . 344 The Earl of Suffolk to Mr. Grenville. November 24.—Considers an attack upon the Ministry under present circumstances will prove ineffectual.........................................347 Mr. Nugent to Mr. Grenville. December 4.—Announces his appointment to be First Lord of Trade ..... 349 The Earl of Harcourt to Mr. Grenville. December 7.—Explana-tion of Mr. Jenkinson’s reasons for accepting office as a Lord of the Admiralty . . . . . . . . . 350 Mr. William Hamilton to Mr. Grenville. December 30.—Expresses his gratitude to Mr. Grenville for having sent him as Ambassador to Naples......................................351 Mr. Grenville’s Diary of Memorable Transactions : continued from page 2^ . .......................................353 ADDENDA ET CORRIGENDA. Vol. i. p. 383, Note, for Thomas Robinson Earl of Grantham, read Henry de Nassau, Earl of Grantham, who was more probably the person alluded to in Lord Egremont’s letter. Vol. ii. p. 65. Almon’s letter to Lord Temple of Sunday [June 23, 1765], should have been placed according to its date in Vol. iii. Vol. ii. p. 192,/or Tuesday the 18th of August, read Thursday the 18th of August. Vol. iii. p. Ixvi., line 18,/or wo, read wo^ Vol. iii. p. 105,/or Sir Cliff. Withrington, read Sir Clifton Wintringham. Vol. iii. p. 187, subnote ^for Memoirs, read Life. Vol. iii. p. 189, in the fifth line of the Note, place a comma after the word “ hold.” Vol. iii. p. 192. At the end of the Note, add, where the Frankland interest was predominant. Vol. iii. p. 282, Note, for Buckingham Street, read York Buildings, near Buckingham Street. Vol. iii. p. 319. In the penultimate paragraph of Lord Clive’s letter, line 3, for adding more to my own fortune, read adding nothing more to my own fortune. Vol. iii. p. 321, Note 2, add, and this volume, p. 296. Vol. iii. p. 344. In the last paragraph of Lord Temple’s letter, George, means George Grenville, jun., afterwards Earl Temple and Marquess of Buckingham. Vol. iv. p. 4, line 6 of Lord Suffolk’s letter, add Note on the 'words “ unavailing grief: ”—Lady Suffolk, a daughter of Lord Trevor, had very recently giving birth to her first child. Vol. iv. p. 321, line 3, in note,/or Junius, read the Author of Junius. Vol. iv. p. 481, in line 9 of Mr. Whately’s letter, for imposible read impossible. Vol. iv. p. 517, in note 3, for Stationary office read Stationery office. I. The Author of•Junius t see lof/lp. 2^4. Hl. . The Author of Junius ; see Pol:If.p.2i>6'. ^ nr(^ 4. A Jjrf^-fJ^ lo Ik-dj^ ^HA^k, J~j'l. ^ iL Jb fa^uM The- Author of Junius: see VoL:IV.p. 26'1. (Lt^^oA^Jf ^^^ tsAjM^> //jL^ulAck' ■ 71^e Au/^or ^fJunius; str ^A/lJf.Jtfi. J>An Mw-rn^ Ali&narie Street. I 4^ ^ .&-t4 k^^M^ \ u^sej^K, ^ K/^n)-^M^n-Gi/^^r-^V^ Iftai 0 klL il KSyfirr %^ Ufru. & phn^/J} alt trtadc & Ir&ty ol.^, H7^ Str^-ti™*^ J&*A »/ (Hr: ^^-^^ ■ 4 ^ rt77renvi//^ a/frnwirds Ladv '/^y^- uh M^LnM S. '7unms fivm M^Wiwi^dl^ cvll^cden i J° Hr^K^, ^^^, uj 1 deed which must vitiate all the future proceedings of this Parliament: for the acts of the Legislature itself can no more be valid without a legal House of Commons, than without a legal prince upon the throne d. “ The representatives of the people are essential to the making of laws; and there is a time when it is morally demonstrable, that men cease to be represented. That time is now arrived e. The present House of Commons do not represent the people. We owe to your Majesty an obedience, under the restrictions of the laws, for the calling and duration of Parliaments: and your Majesty owes to us, that our representation, free from the force of arms or corruption, should be preserved to us in Parliament. “It was for this we successfully struggled under James the second; for this we seated and have faithfully supported your Majesty’s family on the throne. “ The people have been invariably uniform in their object; though the different mode of attack has called for a different defence. “ Under James the second they complained that the sitting of Parliament was interrupted, because it was not corruptly subservient to his designs. We complain now, that the sitting of this Parliament is not interrupted, because it is corruptly subservient to the designs of your Majesty’s Ministers. Had the Parliament under James the second, been as submissive to his commands, as the Parliament is at this day to the dictates of a Minister, instead of clamorous for its meeting, the nation would have rung, as now, with outcries for its dissolution. The forms of the Constitution, like those of religion, were not established for the form’s sake, but for the substance. And we call God and men to witness, that as we do not owe our liberty to those nice and subtle distinctions a “ The grievances of the people are aggravated by insults : their complaints not merely disregarded, but checked by authority, and every one of those acts against which they remonstrated, confirmed by the King’s decisive approbation.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 110. b “ The King’s answer to the Remonstrance of the City of London, and the measures since adopted by the Ministry, amount to a declaration that the principle on which Mr. Luttrell was seated in the House of Commons, is to be supported in all its consequences, and carried to its utmost extent. Tke same spirit which violated the freedom of election, now invades the declaration and bill of rights, and threatens to punish the subject for exercising a privilege, hitherto undisputed, of petitioning the Crown.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 105. c “ That the principle on which the Middlesex Election was determined, is more pernicious in its effects, than either the levying of ship money, by Charles the First, or the suspending power assumed by his son, will hardly be disputed by any man who understands or wishes well to the English Constitution.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 116. d “ If any part of the representative body be not chosen by the people, that part vitiates and corrupts the whole.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 115. e ** The time is come,” &c.—Junius, vol. ii. p. 115. civ INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO and it will be seen that these particular passages contain the points, and some of the same expressions, to be found in the two Letters of Junius which I have mentioned. The extracts from Locke are as follows; and it appears to me that they also contain the germs of some passages in the Letter of Junius, dated March 19th, and that they were used by Lord which places and pensions, and lucrative employments have invented: so neither will we be deprived of it by them : but as it was gained by the stern virtue of our ancestors, by the virtue of their descendants it shall be ^reserved.” a " Since, therefore, the misdeeds of your Majesty’s Ministers, in violating the freedom of election, and depraving the noble constitution of Parliament are notorious, as well as subversive of the fundamental laws and liberties of this realm; and, since your Majesty, both in honour and justice, is obliged inviolably to preserve them, according to the oath made to God and your subjects at your Coronation; We, your Remonstrants, assure ourselves that your Majesty will restore the constitutional government and quiet of your people, by dissolving this Parliament, and removing those evil Ministers for ever from your Councils.” ["His Majesty’s Answer.] “ I shall always be ready to receive the requests and to listen to the complaints of my subjects b; but it gives me great concern to find that any of them should have been so far misled, as to offer me an Address and Remonstrance, the contents of which I cannot but consider as disrespectful to me, injurious to Parliament, and irre-concileable to the principles of the Constitution c. “ I have ever made the law of the land the rule of my conductd, esteeming it my chief glory to reign over a free people : with this view I have always been careful, as well to execute faithfully the trust reposed in me, as to avoid even the appearance of invading any of those powers which the Constitution has placed in other hands e. It is only by persevering in such a conduct, that I can either discharge my own duty, or secure to my subjects the free enjoyment of those rights which my family were called to defend; and while I act upon these principles, I shall have a right to expect, and I am confident I shall continue to receive, the steady and affectionate support of my people.” f a " The time is come when the body of the English people must assert their own cause: conscious of their strength, and animated by a sense of their duty, they will not surrender their birthright to ministers, parliaments, or kings.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 115.! b " His Majesty is pleased to say that he is always ready to receive the requests of his subjects.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 117. c " Whether the Remonstrance be or be not injurious to Parliament, is the very question between the Parliament and the people, and such a question as cannot be decided by the assertion of a third party, however respectable. That the petitioning for a dissolution of Parliament is irreconcileable with the principles of the constitution is a new doctrine.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 117. d " His Majesty proceeds to assure us that he has made the laws the rule of his conduct”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 118. e "His Majesty, we are told, is not only punctual in the performance of his own duty, but careful not to assume any of those powers which the constitution has placed in other hands.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 120. f " To talk of preserving the affections, or relying on the support of his subjects, while he continues to act upon those principles, is indeed paying a compliment to their loyalty, which I hope they have too much spirit and understanding to deserve.”— Junius, vol. ii. p. 119. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. cv Temple, in other words, hut to the same effect, in the composition of that and some others of the Letters— “ Extracts from Mr. Locke’s (nineteenth) chapter on the Dissolution of Government. “ Besides this overturning from without, Governments are dissolved from within. “ When the Legislative is altered. The Constitution of the Legislative is the first & fundamental Act of Society, whereby provision is made for the continuation of their union, under the Direction of persons & the Bonds of Laws made by Persons authorised thereunto, by tho consent & appointment of the People, without which no one Man, or number of Men amongst them, can have Authority of making Laws that shall be binding to the rest. When any one or more shall take upon them to make Laws, whom the People have not appointed so to do, they make Laws without authority which the People are not therefore bound to obey. This being usually brought about by such in the commonwealth who misuse the Power they have, it is hard to consider it aright, & know at whose door to lay it, without knowing the form of government in which it happens. “ Let us suppose, then, the Legislative placed in the concurrence of three distinct persons. Whoever introduces new laws, not being thereunto authorised by the fundamental appointment of the Society, or subverts the old, disowns d; overturns the power by which they ivere madex. 1 “ Even that assertion, which we are told is most offensive to Parliament, in the theory of the English Constitution is strictly true. If any part of the representative body be not chosen by the people, that part vitiates and corrupts the whole. If there be a defect in the representation of the people, that power which alone is equal to the making of laws in this country is not complete, and the acts of Parliament under that circumstance are-not the acts of a pure and entire legislature. I speak of the theory of our constitution, and whatever difficulties or inconvenience may attend the practice, I am ready to maintain, that as far as the fact deviates from the principle, so far the practice is vicious and corrupt.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 115. And in this same letter, in which the above passages, extracted from Locke by Lord Temple, are paraphrased by Junius, I find other ideas and expressions also applied by Junius, from the Essay on Civil Government: thus, for instance, in his 12th Chapter, Locke says:— “For though in a commonwealth the members of it are distinct persons still, in reference to one another, and as such are governed by the laws of the society, yet in reference to the rest of mankind they make one body, which is, as every member of it before was, still in the state of nature with the rest of mankind.” Junius changes this into the following :—“ However distinguished by rank or pro. perty, in the rights of freedom we are all equal. As we are Englishmen, the least considerable man among us has an interest equal to the proudest nobleman, in the laws and constitution of his country,’' &c.—vol. ii. p. 113. Locke continues :— “ Hence it is, that the controversies that happen between any man of the society with cvi INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO Thirdly, when by the arbitrary Power of the Prince [or of either of the other branches of the Legislature], the electors, or ways of election, are altered without the consent, & contrary to the common interest of the People, there also the Legislative is altered, for if others than those whom the Society hath authorised thereunto, do chuse or in any other rvay than what the society hath prescribed, those chosen are not the Legislative appointed by the People \ The Legislative [& a fortiori every part thereof], act against the Trust reposed in them when they endeavour to invade the property of the subject, & make themselves or any part of the Community masters or arbitrary disposers of the Lives, Liberties, or fortunes of the People.”2 those that are out of it, are managed by the public, and an injury done to a member of their body, engages the whole in the reparation of it.” And Junius said :— “It is a common cause, in which we are all interested, in which we should all be engaged.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 114. “We hold it, Sir, that an injury offered to an individual is interesting to society.” •—Junius, vol. i. p. 532. And the expression, power without right (to be found in Lord Temple’s Speech on the Suspending and Dispensing Prerogative, published early in 1767), subsequently more than once used by Junius, and emphatically claimed by Sir Philip Francis, because he said he heard it from Lord Chatham, was originally derived from Locke, as will be seen by the following extracts :— “ And where the body of the people, or any single man is deprived of their right, or is under the exercise of a power without right, and have no appeal on earth, then they have a liberty to appeal to heaven, whenever they judge the cause of sufficient moment.”—Chap. xiv. And again —“ As usurpation is the exercise of power, which another hath a right to, so tyranny is the exercise of power beyond right, which nobody can have a right to.”—Chap, xviii. It is evident that Locke is one of the authors upon which the style of Junius was partly formed. When he wrote the following passage in one of his letters about this same time, he had been probably reminded of the well-known saying of Caligula, which is quoted by Locke in the same chapter of his Essay, from which Lord Temple’s extracts were derived. “The Ministry have realized the compendious ideas of Caligula. They know that the liberty, the laws, and property of an Englishman have, in truth, but one nech, and that to violate the freedom of election, strikes deeply at them all.”—• Junius, vol. ii. 153. 1 “ The right of election is the very essence of the Constitution. To violate that right, and much more to transfer it to any other set of men, is a step leading immediately to the dissolution of all government. So far forth as it operates, it constitutes a House of Commons which does not represent the people”—Junius, vol. i. p. 475. “ The arbitrary appointment of Mr. Luttrell invades the foundation of the laws themselves, as it manifestly transfers the right of legislation from those whom the people have chosen, to those whom they have rejected.”—Junius, vol. i. p. 509. 2 “ We can never be really in danger until the forms of Parliament are made use of to destroy the substance of our civil and political liberties; until Parliament itself betrays its trust, by contributing to establish new principles of Government, and THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. cvii The following draft of the second Remonstrance and Petition from the City of London, is from the original in the handwriting of Lady Chatham. It was probably the joint composition of Lord Chatham and Lord Temple; the passages within brackets of this form [ ] are interlined in the handwriting of the latter. It differs in some respects from that which was subsequently adopted, and which was printed in the newspapers of the day. The King’s reply to this Remonstrance produced the well-remembered rejoinder from the Lord Mayor Beckford, which is engraved under his statue in the Guildhall of the City of London. One paragraph of the Remonstrance, including the words added by Lord Temple, was adopted verbatim by Lord Chatham for the Resolution moved by him in the House of Lords on the 4th of May1, the Remonstrance itself not having been presented to the King until the 23rd of May. May it please Your Majesty. Labouring under the weight of that Displeasure which your Majesty has been advised to lay upon us, in the Answer given from the Throne to our date Humble Address, Remonstrance, and Petition, we cannot but feel ourselves constrained, with all Humility, to request Permission once more to approach the Royal Father of his People. Conscious, Sire, of the purest sentiments of Veneration for your Majesty’s Person, we grieve, that unskilfulness in the expression of Courts, from men used only to speak with plainness that which (to their understandings) the Law allows, and the Constitution teaches [& the necessity of the Times requires], hath been misconstrued by Ministers, 'instruments of that Influence which shakes the Realm, into Disrespect to your Majesty. We stand, Sire, perplexed [agitated] and well nigh confounded in employing the very weapons committed to it by the collective body to stab the Constitution.”—Junius, vol, ii. p. 116. “ Yet surely it is not a less crime, nor less fatal in its consequences, to encourage a flagrant breach of the law by a military force, than to make use of the forms of Parliament to destroy the Constitution.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 35. “When the Constitution is openly invaded, when the first original right of the people, from which all laws derive their authority, is directly attacked,” &c.—Junius, vol. ii. p. 35. “We are far from thinking you capable of a direct deliberate purpose to invade those original rights of your subjects, on which all their civil and political liberties depend."—Junius, vol. ii. p. 65. 1 See Parliamentary History, vol. xvi. ; and Chatham Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 452. cviii INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO our thoughts, by the awful Sentence of Censure lately past upon us, in your Majesty’s answer from the Throne : nevertheless we cannot, without surrendering all that is dear to Englishmen, forbear most humbly to supplicate that your Majesty will deign to grant a more favorable interpretation to the dutiful though persevering Claim of our invaded Birthrights; nothing doubting [but] that the Benignity of your Majesty’s nature will, to our unspeakable comfort, at length break through all the secret and visible Machinations to which we owe our severe Repulse; and that your Kingly Justice, and Fatherly Tenderness, will disclaim tho Malignant and pernicious advice which suggested that Answer which we deplore; ‘ an advice of most dangerous tendency: in as much as thereby the exercise of the clearest Rights of the Subject, namely, to petition the King for Redress of Grievances, to complain of violation of the freedom of Election, to pray Dissolution of Parliament, to point out male (sic) Practices in Administration, and to urge the Removal of Evil Ministers, hath under [pretence of reproving certain parts of the said Remonstrance and Petition by] the generality of one compendious word [Contents] been, indiscriminately, shecked with Reprimand; and wo your Majesty’s afflicted Citizens of London have heard from the throne itself [instead of a gracious answer to the Prayer], that the Contents of our humble Address, Remonstrance, and Petition, laying our complaints and injuries at the feet of our Sovereign, as Father of his People, able and willing to redress our Grievances, cannot but be considered by your Majesty as Disrespectful to Yourself, Injurious to your Parliament, and Irreconcileable to the Principles of the Constitution.’ May your Majesty then deign to approve, that we here reclaim the clearest Principles of this Constitution, against the insidious attempt of evil Counsellors, to perplex, confound, and shake them; and in virtue of those Rights and Liberties which our Forefathers bravely vindicated at the ever-memorable Revolution, and which their Sons will ever defend, vouchsafe, Sire, that we now again renew, at the Foot of the Throne, the claim of our indispensable Right to a full, free, and unmutilated Parliament, legally chosen in all its Members. A right which this House of Commons have manifestly violated, by depriving, at their Will and Pleasure, the County of Middlesex of one of its Legal Representatives, and, in his place, arbitrarily nominating, as a Knight of the Shire, a Person not elected by a majority of the Freeholders of the said County; and as the only constitutional means of Reparation now left for these oppressed Freeholders, and for the injured Electors of Great Britain, that we again pray, with the most urgent supplications, the Dissolution of this present Parliament, together with the Removal of evil ministers : and the total extinction of that fatal Influence which has caused such National Discontent. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. cix In the mean time, Sire, we offer our constant Prayers to Heaven that your Majesty may never cease to reign in and by the Hearts of a Loyal, Dutiful!, and Free people. On the 10th of November, 1770, Lord Chatham wrote to Calcraft :— “ Lord Mayor has just left me; the object of his visit was the Press warrant. His Lordship’s discourse was candid and manly. I frankly declared the fullest opinion against striking at this necessary means of public safety, be the popularity of it what it may.”1 This was no doubt also the opinion of Lord Temple, as will presently be seen from Calcraft’s reply: and Junius, some months later, in allusion to the right of pressing seamen, says:— “ I too have a claim to the candid interpretation of my country, when I acknowledge an involuntary compulsive assent to one very unpopular opinion. I lament the unhappy necessity, whenever it arises, of providing for the safety of the State, by a temporary invasion of the personal liberty of the subject. Would to God it were practicable to reconcile these important objects in every possible situation of public affairs! I regard the legal liberty of the meanest man in Britain as much as my own, and would defend it with the same zeal. I know we must stand or fall together. But I never can doubt, that the community has a right to command, as well as to purchase, the service of its members. I see that right founded originally upon a necessity, which supersedes all argument. I see it established by usage immemorial, and admitted by more than a tacit assent of the Legislature. I conclude there is no remedy in the nature of things for the grievance complained of: for if there were, it must long since have been redressed.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 350. On the 11th of November Calcraft writes:— “ As your Lordship is to see Sergeant Glynn to-day, it may be proper to inform you of a paragraph in a letter of this morning: * Within a day or two Mr. Beardmore is to put a question to Mr. Sergeant Glynn, 1 Lord Chatham’s opinion on this subject is still stronger expressed in a letter to Lord Shelburne of this date:—“ There is also, I perceive, reason to fear a race of frivolous and ill-placed popularity about press warrants. I am determined to resist this ill-judged attempt to shake the public safety. In this state of things, I shall persevere to do my duty to my country, determined by principle, though unanimated by hope. As to what the city now intends to do, I wish to hear nothing of it; resolved to applaud and defend what I think right, and to disapprove what shall appear to me wrong and untenable.”— Chaikam Correspondence, vol. iit p. 485. ex INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO Mr. Dunning, and the Common Sergeant, whether the Lord Mayor ought by a requisition from the Privy Council, or Admiralty, to back the Press warrants; and if he refuses, what they apprehend will be the consequence?’ ”1 . . • “Onmy return last night, I found intelligence of Lord Mansfield’s refusal to be Speaker of the House of Lords; which has occasioned great consternation among the Ministers, both on account of the mode, and the time of doing this. His words were, ‘ he would not.' Just at the meeting, and after frequent audiences in the Closet, the measure does seem strong; in his Lordship it may be timidity."2 In the Chatham Correspondence a letter from Gerard Hamilton is quoted, addressed to Calcraft on the 10th instant,— “ Wheel within wheel: Lord Mansfield never surely would have kept his intention secret to the very day before the meeting of Parliament, if it had not been so understood by the Closet.” On the 12th of November Junius wrote a private note to Woodfall, which was accompanied by a Letter to Lord Mansfield, and it would seem that he considered it of some importance that it should be published immediately upon the meeting of Parliament, which was fixed for Tuesday the 13th instant. Junius says:— “ the inclosed, tho’ begun within these few days, has been greatly laboured. It is very correctly copied, & I beg you will take care that it be literally printed as it stands. I don’t think you run the least Risque. . . . this paper sh? properly have appeared tomorrow, but I co? not compass it. so let it be announced tomorrow & printed Wednesday. “if you sh? have any Fears, I intreat you to send it early enough to Miller, to appear tomorrow night in the London Ev” Post.—In that Case, you will oblige me by informing the public tomorrow, in Your own Paper, that a real Junius will appear at Night in the London. Miller, I am sure, will have no scruples. Lord Mansfield has thrown Ministry into Confusion, by suddenly resigning the Office of Speaker of the H. of L?8”3 The directions of Junius were implicitly obeyed, the letter was announced on Tuesday, and published in the Public Advertiser on Wednesday the 14th. I presume that the note to Woodfall was written by Lady 1 As Beardmore was Lord Temple’s confidential “ man of business,” it may be safely assumed that the letter quoted by Calcraft came from Lord Temple. 2 Junius says—“Your/ears have interposed at last,” &c. 3 The original is marked “ private,” and dated “ Monday evening ” only. • THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. Cxi Temple, who had herself so “ correctly copied ” the Letter, the composition of which may have occupied Lord Temple’s leisure during the previous week up to Saturday night, as it includes a paragraph1, evidently added at the last moment, in allusion to Lord Mansfield’s resignation, which it will have been seen by Mr. Calcraft’s correspondence quoted above, had only become known within the previous day or two. It must be here particularly observed that the above-mentioned note to Wood fall is dated Monday evening [November 12 th, 1770], and that the death of Mr. George Grenville took place on the following day, Tuesday, November 13 th. I am aware that on these dates may be founded an objection to the theory of Lord Temple’s Authorship. It is, however, a mere question of the feelings, it involves no impossibility; and I think that after a fair consideration of all the circumstances, it will be admitted that where many other reasons combine in favour of it, this objection alone will be found to have very little weight in the opposite scale. Mr. Grenville had been in a declining state of health ever since the loss of his wife in the previous December, but his death was nevertheless, at the time it happened, somewhat unexpected. The only account of his illness is to be gleaned from Lord Chatham’s letters to Mr. Calcraft. On Saturday, November 10th, he writes:— “ The account of last night is such, as for the first time, seems to Lady Chatham and myself a ground of some solid hope. Dr. Addington’s judgment that a fever suppressed is Mr. Grenville’s case, was yesterday happily verified by the appearance of a considerable eruption on the face: the pulse kept up sufficient for nature, aided by Dr. Addington’s plan, to throw off the evil. Lady Chatham is gone to town to-day full of hope: pray God! the evening account may confirm and increase this happy gleam.” 1 " Though you dare not be Chancellor, you know how to secure the emoluments of the office. Are the seals to be for ever in commission, that you may enjoy 5000^. a year 1 I beg pardon, my Lord ; your fears have interposed at last, and forced you to resign. The odium of continuing Speaker of the House of Lords, upon such terms, was too formidable to be resisted. What a multitude of bad passions are forced to submit to a constitutional infirmity ! But though you have relinquished the salary, you still assume the rights of a Minister.”—Junius, vol ii. p. 170. cxii INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO On Sunday Lord Chatham says :— “ By a note just received, poor Mr. Grenville is only rather better. His state is very precarious. Lady Chatham went to him again this morning.” On Tuesday night, after the event, Lord Chatham again writes:— “ The favour of your kind note reached me at Lord Temple’s, whither I was just returned from Bolton Street, after assisting in some family duties there; and a most sad assembly it was. Lady Chatham is, thank God, as well as her strength permits her to be, after being up the greatest part of the night in such a scene. Lord Temple is deeply affected, but I have the pleasure to tell you he seems otherwise well.” There can be no doubt but that Lord Temple had the greatest attachment to his brother, both personally and politically, and that he very sincerely lamented his loss; but grief for the loss of a brother is not usually of that absorbing and overwhelming nature which would be caused by the death of a wife or child; nor is it such as should necessarily preclude a man from following the ordinary avocations of his life. Besides, it should be remembered that Lord Temple and Mr. Grenville had not always been upon even friendly terms; for several years previous to their reconciliation in 1765, there had existed between them a bitterness of feeling, amounting almost to rancorous hostility. Although so much family and domestic correspondence has been preserved, there is not a single letter extant, between Lady Temple and Mr. or Mrs. Grenville, nor is there any evidence that there was much cordiality between them. Lady Temple was affectionately attached only to her husband, and it was her duty, as it was no doubt her pleasure, to do all in her power to assuage his grief; and she could adopt no better mode of distracting his thoughts, and diverting his mind, than by encouraging him in the pursuit of that employment in which they were mutually engaged, and which had become the business of their lives: an employment described by Junius himself, to have begun with amusement, to have grown into habit, and to have become, at last, more than heated into passion. The political occupation of Junius was a passion much more violent, and much THE AUTHORSHIP OP JUNIUS. cxili more engrossing, than an affection arising from any of the ties of relationship. The forms of society would necessarily cause his seclusion for a short time, and accordingly it will he seen that before the end of the year he had sent communications, under several signatures, to the Public Advertiser, but nothing appeared under the name of Junius until the 30th of January, 1771, when his celebrated letter on the Falkland Islands was published. The following are extracts from Calcraft’s letter to Lord Chatham, on the 21st of November:— “ Lord Barrington is heartbroken at his nonsensical speech in Parlia. ment; the Army affronted, and Harvey full of resentment, at being hung out in the envious colours his Lordship chose for him.............. I have received a most affectionate letter from Lord Temple, which gives very great satisfaction to me; not only from the love and respect I bear his Lordship, but because it portends, as I sincerely hope, future good. I hear Lord Mansfield maintained his old doctrine in the Court of King's Bench yesterday, that Juries were not judges of the criminality or innocence of the fact." The first part of this letter Mr. Calcraft received from a “ well-informed correspondent;”1 the second part was no doubt contained in the letter he mentions from Lord Temple. It is certainly a curious fact, that these two subjects, differing in every respect from each other, but both communicated in the same letter to Lord Chatham, should, on the same day, be also both of them communicated by Junius to Woodfall. In a private note dated Wednesday niyht, [November 21, 1770,] Junius says,— “ I will never rest ’till I have destroyed or expelled that Wretch2.— I wish you Joy of yesterday3.—The fellow truckles already.”—C. On the outside of the note, Junius wrote,— “ the inclosed strikes deeper than you may imagine. C.” It contained the letter signed Testiculus, which appeared in the Public Advertiser of the 24th. It is evident that this letter 1 Probably William Gerard Hamilton. 2 Lord Mansfield. 3 On the day before, the Court of King’s Bench had granted Woodfall a new trial on the indictment for printing Junius’s Letter to the King. VOL. III. h cxiv INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO was not to be supposed to come from the writer of Junius, for it commences thus:— “ I have never joined in the severe censures which have lately been thrown upon Lord Barrington 1. The formal declaration he was pleased to make (for the information of the House of Commons and of this country) with respect to the shameful ignorance and incapacity of all the general officers without exception, may for aught I know be extremely well founded; and if it were not so, I do not consider the Viscount as a free agent. He undoubtedly meant no more than as a dutiful servant to obey the orders, and express the sentiments of his Royal Master.”.... “If it be the King’s intention (as we have sufficient reason to think it is) to govern the army himself (by which means the disposal of commissions, like everything else, will ultimately centre in Carlton House), the first step is to possess the public with an opinion that this measure is not of choice but necessity. When the Secretary at War has informed the House of Commons, in the name of his gracious Master (for it is not to be suspected that he spoke for himself), that all his general officers were no better than drivellers, it follows of course, that the Secretary at War, with the Adjutant-General’s advice, must be the ostensible manager of the army, and then you see, Sir, everything goes on as Her Royal Highness the Princess Dowager of Wales would have it.”—Junius, vol. iii. p. 280. The latter part of this extract had also been alluded to by Calcraft on the 11th instant, in a letter to Lord Chatham:— “At 11 o’clock on Friday, the Duke of Argyll died; by 12 Lord Barrington had a letter from the King, ordering the Grey Dragoons to Lord Panmure, the Scotch Fusileers to Mackay; Mackay’s to Urmston of the Guards, the Government of Limerick to Colonel Hale, and his Light Dragoons to Colonel Preston. All this without any communication with Ministers or Lord Lieutenant of Ireland! ” 1 On the 19th instant Junius had written upon the same subject under the signature of Testis, thus :—“ A few days ago I was in a large public company, where there happened some curious conversation. The Secretary at War [Lord Barrington] was pleased to express himself with unusual simplicity and candour. He assured us that after having carefully considered the subject, he did not know a single general officer (out of near an hundred now in the service) who was in any shape qualified to command the army; and for fear we should not believe him, repeated and inforced his assertion five several times. You will allow, Sir, that at the eve of a foreign war, this is pretty comfortable intelligence for the nation, especially as it comes from authority. He gave us some consolation, however, by assuring us that he and General Harvey would take excellent care of the army, &c.”—Juniuf, vol. iii. p. 278. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. CXV Lord Chatham observes upon this:— “ The military line of business is new.” The next communication which I have to notice, from Calcraft to Lord Chatham, is the following anonymous letter received by the former on Sunday, December 9th, 1770, and by him inclosed to Lord Chatham on the same day:— “Should anything more be said in Parliament concerning th© Administration of Justice1, the following fact may be worth attending to. It is more extraordinary and of more consequence than you, or any man not acquainted with the course of proceedings in the Court of King’s Bench, can imagine. “ In the cause of the King against Woodfall, the verdict was, * guilty of printing and publishing only." A motion was made in arrest of judgment by the defendant’s counsel, upon this ground, that the verdict was so ambiguous, that judgment could not be entered upon it. On the other hand it was moved, that the verdict might be entered up according to the legal import of the words of the verdict, which, as the Solicitor-General contended, amounted to ‘ guilty.’ In the consideration of this matter, the Court, strictly and regularly, could do no more than determine upon the legality of the verdict, as it appeared upon the face of the record of the proceedings at Nisi Prius. They could not (as is universally known in Westminster Hall) travel out of the record. But Lord Mansfield, in delivering the opinion of the Court, did that which is never done except when a new trial is moved for. He went regularly through the evidence which was given at the trial, and very particularly rehearsed the charge which he had given to the jury. Now all this is flatly irregular, extra judicial, and unprecedented. His reason for this proceeding was, that he might have an opportunity of saying, what he had no right to say on that occasion, that the three other judges concurred with him in the doctrine laid down in his charge to the jury.”—Chatham Correspondence, vol. iv. p. 48. To this letter the Editors of the Chatham Correspondence have appended a note that “ the writer is understood to be Mr. Calcraft’s friend and correspondent Philip Francis.” Having, through the obliging intervention of Lord Mahon, 1 He refers to a debate which had taken place in the House of Commons on the Thursday previous (December 6) on Mr. Sergeant Glynn’s motion for a Committee to inquire into the Administration of Criminal Justice. 11 2 cxvi INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO been allowed by the Editors to examine the original paper, I am compelled to differ from the conclusions to which they have arrived upon the subject of it. Although I think it extremely probable to have been the composition of the Author of Junius, yet I can discover no reason for supposing that it was either written or sent by Francis. It differs entirely in point of style from other communications attributed to Francis1, and which contain precisely the common-place sort of information which might be expected from a clerk in the War Office who was desirous of sending the gossip of the office to his friend and patron the army contractor; but in the anonymous letter above quoted, there is a lofty tone of authority, a decided expression of opinion, that the facts it contains are “ worth attending to, and more extraordinary and of more consequence than you, or any man not acquainted with the course of proceedings in the Court of King's Bench, can imagine." This is not the style in which Francis would (even anonymously) address a man of Calcraft’s experience, so much older, and so much more likely to be better ‘‘acquainted with the course of proceedings in the Court of King’s Bench ” than himself. Moreover, the handwriting of this paper is certainly not that of Francis; it is without disguise, a common business-like sort of hand, no resemblance to that of Junius, and it has the appearance of having been freely and rapidly written, as if transcribed from the author’s copy. It is neither dated nor addressed, but it is endorsed, apparently in Mr. Calcraft’s hand—“Anonymous, received December 9, well worth attention.” It appears also, that Lord Chatham considered it to be well worth attention, for he adopted the subject and substance of it in a speech which he made in the House of Lords on the following day, Monday, December 10th, when Lord Mansfield, who had desired that the Lords should be specially summoned, informed them that he had left a Paper with the Clerk of the House, containing the opinion of the Court of King’s Bench in the case of the King v. Woodfall. 1 Chatham Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 444, and vol. iv. p. 128. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. cxvii The chief part of the debate on this occasion which has been preserved is comprised in the few sentences reported as the speech of Lord Chatham. Up to within a recent period it was supposed that the earliest report of this speech was given by Junius, in a letter to the Printer of the Public Advertiser, under the signature of “ Phalaris,”1 and dated December 17th, and which contains a version almost verbatim of the anonymous letter to Calcraft; and the same version with some, but trifling, alterations, was again used by Junius as a Note in the Preface to the first collected edition of his Letters, where it is described as but in such a manner as to leave it doubtful which word was intended to remain, and consequently, in the Author’s edition of 1772, the word stands contumelious. In Woodfall’s editions of 1812 and 1814 it is contumacious. Junius was probably indifferent which word was used; he thought them synonymous. But this apparently trifling alteration furnishes presumptive evidence that Another Letter to Almon was written by Junius. In another part of the pamphlet (p. 170) the author says :—“ The vulgar sense of the word contempt has created the confusion. All contumacy of, or contumely upon, the person, expressions, and sentiments of a judicial officer and magistrate, by word of mouth or writing, is, in common parlance, a contempt.” See also p. 164. clxxxii INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO “ In God's name \ is there to be no certainty from henceforth in the law?”—P. 123. “In God's name, let the treatment of any judge,” &c. —P. 171. “ Can any man of common sense and honour say ? ”—P. 84. “ By what maxim of law or common sense ? ”—P. 14. “ For my own part, being one of the people." 2—P. 178. “ It was in truth a mere oratorial3 excrescence.”—P. 183. “ Come forth4, therefore, and answer directly,”—P. 61. “ There is a report, too, whether well or ill founded."5 —P. 111. “They will resist it as Hampden did the pittance of ship money demanded from him, or as the Americans do the payment of the paltry tea duty."6—P. 137. The Author concludes his letter at p. 158,i( And so, Mr. Almon, I wish you good night." And again in the postscript, “ And so, once more, good night.”1 1 “In, God's name, what business have private men,” &c.—Candor to Public Adver-tiser, p. 11. “In the name of common sense."—Ibid., p. 41. “In the name of God and the laws.”—Junius, vol. iii. p. 31. “In God's name, let him retire.”—Ibid., vol. ii. p. 380. “ For God's sake, Sir.”—Ibid., vol. iii. p. 399. “ But in the name of common sense."—Ibid., vol. iii. p. 183. “ In the name of decency and common sense.”—Ibid., vol. iii. p. 331. “ Is this now, in the name of common sense.”—Letters concerning Libels, &c., p. 48. “ But, in God’s name, what have damages to do with the great point,” &c.—Ibid., p. 66. “Ivow to God I am astonished at it.”—Ibid., p. 111. 8 “ I speak to the people as one of the people."—Junius, vol. ii. p. 346. 3 “ I promise you you will be as well able to judge of his oratorial powers.”—Ibid., vol. iii. p. 287. 4 “Stand forth, my Lord, for thou art the man.”—Junius, vol. i. p. 506. “Come forward, thou worthy representative of Lord Bute.”—Ibid., vol. ii. p. 155. “ Come forward to your people.”—Ibid., vol. ii. p. 87. “ Come forward, thou virtuous Minister.”—Ibid., vol. ii. p. 53. 5 “What do we care whether this dormant and antiquated claim of the Crown be well or ill founded."—Junius, vol. iii. p. 55. “ Whether you have guessed well or ill,” &c.— Ibid., vol. i. p. 196. “ How well or ill we have argued.”—Ibid., vol. iii. p. 147. • I have quoted this passage because, in one of the Letters of Junius, written almost at the same date, the two subjects of Ship money and Pea duty occur within a few lines of each other, thus—“ Had Mr. Hampden reasoned and acted like the moderate men of these days, instead of hazarding his whole fortune in a law-suit with the Crown, he would have quietly paid the twenty shillings demanded of him. In the repeal of those acts which were most offensive to America, the Parliament have done everything but remove the offence. They have relinquished the revenue, but judiciously taken care to preserve the contention. It is not pretended that the continuance of the tea duty is to produce any direct benefit whatsoever to the mother country.”—Junius, vol. ii. p. 146-7. 7 This mode of ending a letter has been noticed as a peculiarity in Junius. In the private note (No. 5) to Woodfall, he ends,—“And so I wish you a good night.” And in No. 46,—“ So farewell.” The same peculiarity, if such it can be called, occurs several times in the letters of Lord and Lady Temple. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. clxxxiii Some months afterwards, in December of the same year, was published, by Miller, “A second Postscript to a late Pamphlet, entitled A Letter to Mr. Almon in Matter of Libel, by the Author of that Letter;” with the following motto :— tf And thus was fulfilled the Law, and the Prophets.”1 The Postscript is written in the same style as the Letter itself, and was occasioned by the delivery of the unanimous judgment of the Court of King’s Bench, in the King against Woodfall. Several phrases may be found in it similar to some used by Junius. At p. 30, the Author affects ignorance of Woodfall. Alluding to the Letter to the King, he says, (t One Woodfall, it seems, originally printed the paper in question, in the Public Advertiser.” In the Memoirs of Almon, published under the title of the Memoirs of an Eminent Bookseller, at page 74, there is a quotation from a letter signed Phileleutherus Anglicanus, on the subject of Almon’s trial for the publication of the well-known Letter concerning Libels, Warrants, &c., and which, upon the authority of Almon, is there said to have been written by the author of that celebrated tract2. A series of four letters, signed Phileleutherus Anglicanus, had recently appeared in the Public Advertiser—the first on Saturday, the 15th of December, 1770, and the others on the three succeeding Saturdays; and on Saturday, the 2nd of February, 1771, they were collected and published in the form of a tract, under the following title:—“A Summary of the Law of Libel: in Four Letters, signed Phileleutherus Anglicanus, addressed 1 This phrase was used by Lord Temple in a reply to his sister Lady Chatham, who, in August, 1775, had asked him for the loan of £1000, in consequence of the illness of Lord Chatham and his inability to attend to any affairs of business. In complying with her request, Lord Temple says i— “ Though nothing can be more contrary to my own sacred Law, and to my own Prophets, than entering into an account of the nature you propose, yet the great distress you describe in the present moment is too grievous for me not, in this instance, to be my own Pope, and give myself absolution; I have therefore sent an order to Mr. Coutts,” &c. 3 I mention Almon’s authority for as much as it is worth. I have already stated my belief that he did not with any certainty know who was the author. dxxxiv INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO to, and printed in, the Public Advertiser, by H. S. Woodfall. London: Printed for 8. Bladon, in Paternoster Row. 1771.” It is presumptive evidence that Woodfall considered these Letters to be written by the author of Another Letter to Almon in Matter of Libel, because he has prefixed to his advertisement of the above-mentioned tract, a notice that it was printed in type of the same size as Another Letter, &c., to which it will be a very proper supplement. For this and other reasons, I have no doubt that Phileleutherus wks Candor \ and I repeat my belief that Candor was Junius. Phileleutherus describes himself to be “ a speculative and not a practising lawyer," and it will be remembered that Junius, among other similar expressions, said, “ 7 am no lawyer by profession f and the author of Another Letter to Almon, &c., calls himself “ no barrister, though formerly bred for [not in] one of the Inns of Court, and still intimate with lawyers.” Phileleutherus says too, in allusion to certain legal doctrines,— “ But I trust men will not, in a plain matter, suffer themselves to be talked out of their senses.” And Lord Temple, in his pamphlet on the Seizure of Papers, has the following passage to the same effect:— “ The reason is most inadequate, and must appear so to every man who is not beat out of his senses by the jargon of lawyers, or confounded in his own ideas with the quibbles of legal nonsense.”2 Several other phrases and words used by Phileleutherus will occur to the reader as in some degree peculiar to Junius ; as, for instance, “ whether their opinions be well or ill founded ;”— t( a multitude of variable circumstances;” —ie In the name of common sense,” &c.—“ Now, if this be his sincere opinion, and that it is possible, I am well assured, from what I know of very sensible men in particular points,” &c. There is also a passage in the third letter of Phileleutherus * I have before mentioned (ante, page clix) that the productions of Candor have been attributed to Lord Camden, and so appears to have been the opinion of “ A Candid Enquirer,” in the Public Advertiser for January 10, 1771, who addresses Phileleutherus as alias Lord Camden. 2 See other parallels from Junius, &c., ante, page clxxxii. THE AUTHORSHIP OF JUNIUS. clxxxv which appears to me very conclusively to connect him with the Author of Junius, and with an anonymous letter addressed to Calcraft on Sunday, the 9th of December, 1770, and by him immediately communicated to Lord Chatham, who made use of the substance of it in his speech in the House of Lords on the following day1. Phileleuthen^s says:— “ There were two motions made to the Court, in consequence of the verdict in the King against Woodfall; the one was, ‘ to stay the entering up °f judgment on the verdict ;' and the other, * that the verdict might be entered up according to the legal import of the finding of the jury. ’2 On the latter motion, the counsel were encouraged to go into what passed at the trial, and the Chief Justice declared it was necessary to report the whole ” 3. “ Now, these things pass my understanding 4. Because nothing can be requisite for the Court to determine such motion but the charge, the plea, and the finding of the jury. It was known, and is allowed to be clear law, that the verdict must be entered in the words it was delivered. . . . The report of the evidence, the arguments of counsel, or directions of the Judge, cannot be of any use. No such collateral matter ought to be admitted. The Court cannot travel out of the record5 in quest of something to ground their opinion upon: they must confine themselves to the very words of the finding, applying them to the information and plea, and then see what will be their effect.” “ Such report, therefore, was unnecessary and impertinent, the legality of the Judge’s directions was not in judgment before the Court, and they could not give any opinion thereon without doing what was 1 For an account of this letter, and Lord Chatham’s speech, see ante, page cxv. 2 “The verdict given in Woodfall’s trial was ‘guilty of printing and publishing only,' upon which two motions were made in Court: one, in arrest of judgment, by the defendant’s counsel, grounded upon the ambiguity of the verdict; the other, by the counsel for the Crown, for a rule upon the defendant to show cause why the verdict should not be entered up according to the legal import of the words.’'—Junius, vol. i. p. 369, and vol. iii. p. 302. 3 “ On both motions a rule was granted, and soon after the matter was argued before the Court of King's Bench. The noble judge, when he delivered the opinion of the court upon the verdict, went regularly through the whole of the proceedings,” &c.— Junius, vol. i. p. 369, and vol. iii. p. 302. 4 “ I vow to God this sort of reasoning passes my understanding.”—Second Postscript to a late Pamphlet, &c., p. 24. 8 “ And the court, in considering whether the verdict shall be established or not, are so confned to the record, that they cannot take notice of anything that does not appear on the face of it; in the legal phrase, they cannot travel out of the record”—Junius, vol. i. p. 369, and vol. iii. p. 303. clxxxvi INTRODUCTORY NOTES RELATING TO extrajudicial and irregular1; and consequently this determination was a rash and voluntary act, and can carry no legal authority whatever with it. Did not we know that Lord Mansfield’s practice needs no support, one would be tempted to suppose that these directions were first slid in upon the Court for the sake of procuring their sanction 2, and afterwards into a superior judicature for the like end Nothing but a motion for a new trial, upon the ground of misdirections to the jury, could bring the matter before the Court 3. .... “ But if what was ruled in the King against Woodfall be intended, as I conceive it is, for a complete code of the Law in Libel, I am surprised to read in the newspapers, that the noble Penner4 hath declined answering some plain questions put for the more clear ascertainment of his doctrine, and its binding force as a judgment. When four months had been taken finally to settle it, and it was ofiiciously intruded upon the great world as complete, the intimation of a doubt about its meaning, especially from a peer of the same profession3, should have produced an immediate explanation6. But that is refused7, and the opinion is to remain a dark lanthorn for political application hereafter. It was asserted in another place that the noble Judge avowed to everybody his adjudication, and wished for nothing more than an opportunity of fully declaring it, for the sake of certainty in so agitated a question. All this only serves to show the man8! For an explicit resolution of the Queries must and will come, after six weeks more consultation, and one or two farther intermediate, ambiguous answers.” 1 te The noble judge did travel out of the record, and I affirm that his discourse was irregular, extrajudicial, and unprecedented.”—Junius, vol. i. p. 369, and vol. iii. p. 303. 2 “ His apparent motive for doing what he knew to be wrong was, that he might have an opportunity of telling the public extrajudicially that the other three judges concurred in the doctrine laid down in his charge.”—Jbid., vol. i. p. 369, and vol. iii. p. 303. This concluding part of the before-mentioned anonymous letter to Calcraft was used by Junius, as well under the signature ofth of May, the weavers marched in a large body to the King at Richmond, and sent in 1 See ante, page 150. 8 See Lord Albemarle’s Memoirs of Lord Rockingham, vol. i. p. 191, where this transaction is, in error, referred to Monday, 6th of May. The Duke of Cumberland states that Lord Northumberland came to him by the King’s orders, and with a desire that he “ should endeavour to see whether Mr. Pitt and Lord Temple, with the other great Whig families, could not be brought to form him a strong and a lasting Administration, which might empower him to form systems at home and abroad, such as the dangers of the times might require : desiring withal that this negotiation might be carried on with the utmost secrecy and celerity, as its magnitude would allow of.” 1765. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 225 a message demanding redress, and saying they were starving. The King sent them a message telling them to go home, and that he would do all he could for them. Lord Temple went to Stowe the day before, and on Wednesday morning at two o’clock he received a letter sent to him by express from the Duke of Cumberland, desiring him to come to town with all speed. Wednesday, May \5th.—Lord Temple came to London, sent to the Duke of Cumberland to acquaint him with his arrival, and received a message from His Royal Highness desiring him to be at Beaufort House that evening. Lord Temple went there, and His Royal Highness opened to him the plan of the change of the Ministry, proposing Lord Northumberland to be at the head of the Treasury: Mr. Pitt and Mr. Charles Townshend Secretaries of State, and Lord Temple President, or Privy Seal. Lord Temple made his objections to this plan, saying particularly that he would not make himself a party to the propping up Lord Bute’s power, nor would he act under Lord Northumberland, who he looked upon as Lord Bute’s lieutenant. Lord Temple was desired by His Royal Highness to go to Hayes, which he accordingly did, but brought back the same unfavourable answer on Thursday the 16th. Friday, May l~th.—The Duke of Cumberland sent Lord Albemarle to Hayes to treat with Mr. Pitt, but he had no better success than the former messages had produced. Saturday, May 18th.—The Duke of Cumberland went to the King at Richmond in the evening, and stayed extremely late. vol. in. Q 226 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY. May, 1765. Sunday, May 19th—The Duke of Cumberland sent early in the morning to Lord Temple to let him know that H.R.H. had the King’s commands to go down to Hayes, and desired Lord Temple would meet him there. Lord Temple set out as soon as he could, but His Royal Highness had been there two hours before he came there. His Royal Highness told both Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt that he came with carte blanche from the King. Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt were determined not to take the Administration whilst Lord Bute’s power existed. The Duke always evaded any explicit declaration on that head, which determined them to throw all possible difficulties in the way. They therefore made five propositions: the first was a new system of foreign politics ; the second, that provision should be made for the unfunded debt; the third was the making Lord Chief Justice Pratt a Peer, and bringing him on to the head of the law; the fourth was the settling the question of General Warrants by a Bill or Declaration ; the fifth was restoring the officers who had been dismissed. The Duke took all these proposals ad referendum, which still made them more determinate in their resolution to break off the negotiation, and have nothing to do with it \ The Duke stayed five hours at Hayes, and then went to report the result of this conference to the King. 1 It would appear from this statement that Mr. Pitt and Lord Temple agreed in their mutual determination not to accept the King’s offers, and that it was not from any difficulties created by Lord Temple alone, as has been generally supposed, that the formation of a Government was prevented at this crisis; nevertheless, it is most probable that Mr. Pitt had a real inclination to have attempted it, if Lord Temple would have concurred. Jan. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 227 Monday, May 20th,—Proposals were made to Lord Lyttelton to make him First Lord of the Treasury, in order to form an Administration without Lord Temple or Mr. Pitt. EARL TEMPLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. Wednesday morning, January 15, 1766. My dear Brother,—I heard you last night \ so much to your honour, give the lie direct to the vile misrepresentations which had been so industriously propagated against you, and I feel so much pleasure in it that I must beg you will accept of the small pittance of a thousand pounds transferred this day to your account at Mr. Coutts’s in testimony of my joy and conviction. I am, &c. Temple. MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. January 15, 1766. My dear Brother,—Your approbation I shall always think my greatest honour, and feel your friendship and kindness as my greatest comfort. Judge, then, how sensibly 1 must be affected by the assurances and proofs 1 In a debate on the Address at the meeting of Parliament, when the subject of the Stamp Act was introduced. Mr. Grenville’s policy was attacked by Pitt on this occasion in one of his celebrated speeches. Wilkes has alluded to this speech in a letter to Cotes, dated Feb. 15, 1766. “ I hear from every quarter that Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt are entirely separated; and that when Mr. Pitt made the American speech, Lord Temple was in the House under the gallery, and made use of the same expressions against his brother-in-law, which he used against his brother George in the same place three years ago. I hear that Bedford, Sandwich, Halifax, &c., are united with Lord Temple and George Grenville.”—Almon's Memoirs of Wilkes, vol. ii. p. 226. Q 2 228 GRENVILLE PAPERS. January, which you have given me both of the one and of the other. The honourable testimony which your affection has prompted you to give me upon this occasion, I accept with the sincerest thanks and gratitude. It makes me proud and happy that you should think I deserve it. May I ever continue to do so, and to show you by every means in my power how cordially and truly I am your most affectionate Brother, George Grenville. LADY CHATHAM TO EARL TEMPLE. Hayes, Monday morning, January 20, 1766. Dear Brother,—You being in town and I here, which prevents my having the pleasure of seeing you, I desire to take this way of expressing the real satisfaction I have in hearing so good an account of your health. I am besides truly anxious to express to you my unalterable affection under all circumstances, and my constant wishes that no misapprehensions may ever suggest to your mind that I am or ever can be changed in my sentiments towards you, being ever, your loving Sister, . Chatham \ I desire my compliments to Lady Temple. EARL TEMPLE TO LADY CHATHAM. Pall Mall, January 20, 1766. My dear Lady Chatham,—I am much obliged to you for the kind inquiries contained in your letter, and I shall certainly call upon you as soon as I know you 1 Lady Chatham signs thus, as a Baroness in her own right. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 229 are in town. I did wish to be sure to hear an account both of your own health and Mr. Pitt’s from the Bath, but you deprived me of that pleasure \ Many unfortunate events have fallen out both for the public, and affecting the comfort of my private life. Misapprehensions I believe are, often er than realities, the cause of much unhappiness, and I refer myself only to your recollection of what has passed betwixt you and me in many unreserved conversations, manifesting towards you such real esteem and affection in one who is above dissimulation, and very much your affectionate Brother, Temple. LADY CHATHAM TO EARL TEMPLE. Hayes, Thursday, January 23, 1766. My dear Brother,—Was it not for a violent cold which I have, as well as four of the children, I would have had the pleasure of coming to you myself instead 1 There had been a cessation of correspondence, and much coolness between Mr. Pitt and Lord Temple for some months past. The “misapprehensions ” to which Lady Chatham refers, probably took their rise from the failure of the negotiation in the July preceding, when it was supposed that Mr. Pitt was compelled to decline the King’s offers in consequence of difficulties on the part of Lord Temple. Wilkes, writing to Humphrey Cotes on the 4th of December, 1765, after mentioning Pitt as “ the best orator, and the worst letter-writer of the age,” adds, “ I grieve at the coldness between Lord Temple and Pitt. I wish that, like most bosom friendships, it does not end in an inveterate hatred. George Grenville had better have continued as he was * * * ********* I foresee all the consequences of a disunion, and there is nothing I desire so earnestly to hear of as their reconciliation. United, they were too weak against the favourite. Separated, I fear both will be undone. Nothing can so effectually do the business of the favourite, as’thequarreT between the two brothers.” a a Almons Memoirs of Wilkes, ii. 217. I regret that I am unable to explain the passage which relates to George Grenville : the suppression indicates something important. 230 GRENVILLE PAPERS. January, of this letter; and will call upon you as soon as ever I am able to go to London. In the meantime I desire to assure you my not writing to you from Bath did not proceed from any resolution to the contrary, but from many uncertainties about my own motions, and from various occurrences. I am deeply grieved for whatever affects your private comfort, and feel too sensibly for my health, how much my own has been wounded from the day of your unfortunate dissent from Mr. Pitt. One of the dearest pleasures to my mind, and which gave me the most heartfelt joy, was the persuasion, that I was possessed of your real esteem and sincere love. I acknowledge to the full, the instances of your confidence in me, and all your goodness to me in the different marks of your friendship towards me. For misapprehensions, I can only say, that there may be such, though I do not know any, and that misapprehensions will arise where false appearances (if they are such) are so sustained, as to have in general the same effects as if they were realities. However things are, this I am sure of, that I have invariably wished your happiness, and never have ceased to be at any time, your most loving Sister, Chatham. EARL TEMPLE TO LADY CHATHAM. Pall Mall, January 24, 1766. My dear Lady Chatham,—It is no small satisfaction to me to find by your letter of yesterday that the long discontinuance of our correspondence, on your part, did not proceed from any resolution of putting an end to it, but from various occurrences which prevented me from 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 231 hearing from you at all during a very considerable and interesting period. 1 do not mean to enter into observations upon all or any part of what has passed since the day of my dissent from Mr. Pitt. I have my recollections, and events have verified my opinions. I can appeal to my own heart, and I know the purity of my own intentions sufficient to vindicate me to myself, and to enable me in some degree to bear up against new scenes of family disunion. I share in every grief you feel, and I am sure happiness of every sort was at hand. Whenever your cold permits you to visit this devoted city, I shall be very happy in your affording me the melancholy satisfaction of assuring you that I am inviolably, my dear Lady Chatham, your most affectionate Brother, Temple. J am sorry the amiable little family are indisposed. MR. PITT TO MR. GRENVILLE. Bond Street, Saturday morning, (February 8, 1766). Mr. Pitt presents his compliments to Mr. Grenville, and understanding that his retiring from the Committee last night, when Mr. Grenville was beginning to speak, gave him displeasure, he desires to assure him that nothing could be further from his thoughts than to mark the least want of personal regard to Mr. Grenville, being, in truth, not in a condition to remain in the Committee, and having requested their leave to retire1. 1 Mr. Grenville had moved an Address to the King to give orders for enforcing the laws in America, and carrying all Acts of the English 232 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, Mr. Pitt begs to inquire after Mrs. Grenville’s health, which he sincerely hopes is much better, and to present his compliments to her. MR. GRENVILLE TO MR. PITT. Bolton Street, Saturday morning, February 8, 1766. Mr. Grenville presents his compliments to Mr. Pitt, and is sorry that he was not in a condition to remain in the Committee last night after he had spoken, as Mr. Grenville found himself under the necessity of giving an answer to many passages contained in Mr. Pitt’s speech, in which he apprehended himself to be personally called upon, and to which he earnestly wished Mr. Pitt could have heard his answer. Mr. Grenville is obliged to Mr. Pitt for his assurances that nothing was further from his thoughts than to mark the least want of personal regard towards him; and Mr. and Mrs. Grenville join in returning their thanks for his inquiry after Mrs. Grenville’s health, which they hope is better than it has been, and shall be glad to receive the like favourable account of Mr. Pitt and Lady Chatham. MR. WILKES TO EARL TEMPLE. Hoiles Street, May 15, 1766. My Lord,—If I could have seen Mr. Cotes the hour of my return, I should then have desired him to assure your Lordship that I am come to my native country with Parliament into execution. Pitt retired from the House after making a speech in opposition to Mr. Grenville’s motion, which was negatived by a majority of 274 to 134. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 233 a heart not in the least changed, but always full of the infinite personal obligations I have to Lord Temple, and of gratitude to him as an Englishman. I am returned without the knowledge of any one person in or out of the Administration. I declared to all my friends at Paris, three days before I set out, that I was coming on a tour to England, and I sent for an order for post-horses in my own name. I believe that I shall soon have my pardon to plead the first day of next term. I find universal good humour with respect to myself. I have entered into no political engagements, but I have declared very explicitly to the friends of the present Ministers that no consideration whatever shall induce me, in any moment of my life, to do anything offensive, or in the least disobliging, with respect to Lord Temple1. I beg to assure Lady Temple of my sincere regard and esteem. 1 Wilkes had no personal communication with Lord Temple upon the occasion of this hurried visit to London. His arrival, it appears, was unexpected even by his friend Humphrey Cotes, who afterwards furnished Almon with an account of Wilkes’s negotiations with the Ministers at this time. (See Anecdotes of Lord Chatham, vol. ii. p. 154, ed. 1792.) In this narrative he says that Wilkes desired him “ to assure Lord Temple of bis best respects; and that he would have paid his respects in person, but as he was in an interesting negotiation with the present Ministers, he hoped his Lordship would excuse him. I went immediately to Lord Temple’s bedside, and related the above to him. He seemed extremely well satisfied with Mr. Wilkes’s conduct, and wished most heartily that the Ministers might be as good as their promises. He desired me to convey his kind compliments to Mr. Wilkes, and to assure him of his friendship and approbation of his conduct upon the present occasion ; at the same time he told me that he was very certain that Lord Rockingham had not the least intention of serving Mr. Wilkes, and feared they would deceive him.” Lord Temple was right. Wilkes was disappointed both of a pardon or a pension, and he made a precipitate retreat from London, and returned to Paris. 234 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, I am ever, my Lord, your Lordship’s most obedient and devoted humble servant, John Wilkes. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. May 23, 1766. Dear Sir,—Inclosed I send you the Bill for opening the Free Ports in Dominica and Jamaica, as I imagined you might wish to look it over. I am not master of the subject, and therefore cannot point out the imperfections of the scheme, but at first view I think every one must be disappointed to see so great a liberty guarded by so few restrictions, and no additional provisions made against the new dangers to which this licence will expose the commerce of the Colonies. I suppose the Bill will be proceeded on next Monday, but there is other business to be brought on before the rising of Parliament. A provision for the Dukes of York and Gloucester is to be made out of that fallen in by the death of the Duke of Cumberland, and though very proper to be done, seems to be introduced very improperly so late in the year; though I see the precedent of the 15,000/. to the Duke of Cumberland may be quoted, which was brought into the House on 3rd May, 1739, and carried through in five days. That was by message ; this, it is said by some, is to be moved in the revived Committee of Supply; and by others, it is to be only an Address to His Majesty to desire him to pay it out of the Civil List, and to promise to replace it out of the next Aids. This, I believe, will be the proceeding, and against this I have heard a very strong language held, that it is the most ungracious way of doing an agreeable thing; that 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 235 it is loading the Civil List, already oppressed; that if it should be necessary to apply to Parliament for a Civil List debt, why add this sum to it ? that it is unfair to bring this in at a time when many will by their absence be deprived of an opportunity of expressing their zeal for the Royal family ; why throw a slur upon such a transaction by bringing it in at the end of a Sessions, as if a full House would not have approved of it; that the greatness of the boon from His Majesty to the people in altering the Civil List revenues, is not sufficiently known, and ought to be stated, &c., &c.1 You know best whether you would choose to be present when the Address is moved for, or how far you wish to say anything, which at least you had not written before. There will at the same time, I hear, be a motion for the Queen of Denmark’s portion, which must be made in a Committee of Supply. The Duke of Richmond is to be Secretary of State for the Southern department2, General Conway for the Northern, and the Colonies (at least those of the Continent) to be restored to the Board of Trade, with more active powers than were ever vested in Lord Halifax ; even so far (it is said) as to make the first Lord of Trade Secretary of State for the Plantations. Charles Townshend’s account of his transaction about the Seals is, that when he was first offered them, he refused them because the system would never do, with all the abilities of the House of Commons against Administration, and no power trusted in anybody there ; that he was next offered them with a Peerage, which he said was worse and worse, as his family were not in circum- 1 See Walpole's Memoirs of George III., vol. ii. p. 328. 2 On the resignation of the Duke of Grafton. 236 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, stances to make that situation desirable, and he himself too young to retire into an Hospital1; that he was then offered to be Secretary of State for the Plantations, and on declining that also, he was told that it was very extraordinary such offices should go a-begging; that if the present system broke up, it must be laid at his door; that the Ministers had too much spirit to be Ministers only for a summer; and the conversation growing warm, he was desired to explain himself, to which he answered that he meant to keep his place, and that they durst not take it from him if they could, and could not if they durst, which he hoped was sufficiently explicit. It has been proposed to Lord Townshend, and he has refused to go either to France or Spain; upon which Lord Rochford is to be removed from Madrid to Paris, which just at this moment seems to be the worst choice that could be made, as he, by knowing exactly the present state of the Court there, and by being an object of the attention of the people, may be of more service where he now is than any other man can be. The reason assigned for Lord Egmont’s refusing the Seals is, that he did not choose to make a part of the present Ministry, upon which it is said that Lord Rockingham has made some representations, which have been very ill taken. A rumour universally prevails of some very bad news from America, but I cannot hear anything of it authentically. The story is, that they are in arms. This I do not find any foundation to believe. I have been told that private letters say they will not be content with the Repeal, which they say is of as little consequence as the 1 It was, I believe, Lord Chesterfield who first called the House of Lords the Hospital for Incurables, 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 237 Stamp Act, both being nullities, but I have not met with anybody who has received letters1. I have the honour to be, &c., &c. Thomas Whately. 1 I found the following letter among Mr. Grenville’s papers. The writer, Dr. Thomas Moffatt, was a Physician at Newport, in Rhode Island, and Dr. Styles an Independent Minister residing in the same town. Pr. Moffatt’s house having been pulled down by the populace, he was obliged to retire to London. He was examined by the House of Commons about the tumults in America on account of the Stamp Act, and after its repeal he was asked by the Marquess of Rockingham to write this letter to Dr. Styles, who was a leading man in New England. I am not aware that it has been printed. A note in the handwriting of Mr. George Chalmers certifies that it was copied from Dr. Moffatt’s original draft, which was corrected by the Marquess of Rockingham and Sir George Savilea. Another note in the handwriting of Mr. Thomas Astle, afterwards Keeper of the Records, is to the same effect, and he adds, “ that this letter is important, because it shows the arts used by the noble Marquess and his friends to quiet the Americans after the repeal of the Stamp Act. The Rockingham Administration did not seem to know at this time that the leaders of the factions in America despised them. Knaves generally despise those whom they have duped.” Dr. Thomas Moffatt to Dr. Styles. London, March 18, 1766. Sir,—I persuade myself that you are under no expectation of receiving a letter from me, but as I am under an influence neither necessary nor very proper for me to explain to you, I cannot very easily refrain from acquainting you that the Stamp Act of America is now repealed by Parliament, nor from endeavouring to communicate to you an idea of the great difficulties that have attended this work from the first moment it was known to be adopted by the King’s servants, who with their combined influence and interest in both Houses of Parliament, have happily effected it against a sea of hindrance and opposition from many quarters felt, known and unseen. The difficulty of repealing this Act was also greatly increased by the conduct of the Colonies, who continued to assist and co-operate in embarrassing an administration that was warmly inclined to relieve America from every bondage, and who had undertaken it against opposers that were very considerable and powerful in respect of their quality, capacity, connexions, and influence, and of whom I shall say no more than that they lost not the a See Bancroft's History of the American devolution, vol. ii. p. 521. 238 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. Parliament Street, Saturday, May 24, 1766. Dear Sir,—It is hard upon you to be pestered every post in a holiday week with politics and news, but the shadow of any opportunity either to prevent or retard the passing of the Bill for repealing the Stamp Act. But the present Ministers of State, full of the tenderest and most benevolent sentiments towards America, set out in this undertaking upon a principle of reclaiming the British Colonies by marks of their moderation and grace rather than by instances of their power and resentment, which last was much and eagerly insisted on by many, but prudently averted by those at the helm of Government, who never have been, nor are yet insensible how much they have hazarded on this occasion for the sake of North America, and how much they have now depending upon the instant and future behaviour of the British American Colonies. If, therefore, the repeal of the Stamp Act is received in North America with the expected and becoming spirit of gratitude and obedience really manifested by the restoration of public and private tranquillity, order and safety, then may the King’s Ministers and all the true stedfast friends of America have abundant cause to rejoice, and be well satisfied with what they have now accomplished. But if, on the contrary, the repealing of the Stamp Act should be received and considered by the colonists as a condescension or submission extorted from Sovereign and Supreme Authority, or if the occasion shall be celebrated with extravagancy and triumph indicatory of such sentiments or opinion, then may the Americans be said to have conspired in betraying their redeemers, and even of bringing them to open shame, and what the ensuing consequences would be to America and them is but too plain to require any explanation from me to you. Your function, station, and regard to your country, with many other motives, will naturally point out to you how necessary and incumbent it is to impress the minds of all people with a dutiful sense and spirit of gratitude, submission, peace, and good order, on an event so very favourable and gracious to North America. I am, &c. Thomas Moffatt. The word bondage in the first paragraph was objected to by the Marquess of Rockingham, and the following words, “from every degree of hardship, or degree of oppression," were substituted in the room thereof. The words, and what the ensuing consequences would be, (0c., in the fourth paragraph were objected to by Sir George Savile as not suf- 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 239 present Administration are so active that not a day can escape without an occurrence ; and it would not he doing them justice to omit any of their transactions. That no time, for instance, might be lost, they chose this for passing the Bill of Indemnification to those who have not used stamps in America, which, though formed upon your motion, is now amended to the very reverse of your idea. To conform to the resolution which provides for certain restrictions to accompany the Indulgence, the Bill was brought in with a clause to require the previous payment of the duties; but that has been struck out in the Committee, and the Bill now gives an absolute indemnification without any restriction. By great accident Mr. Thurlow1 was yesterday in the House, when it was proposed to have it read a third time, and on his representation of the impropriety of pressing it, Mr. Fuller agreed to postpone it to Wednesday. The Vice-Treasurership of Ireland has been again offered to Lord North, who has behaved with great propriety on the occasion, and sent yesterday a peremptory refusal to accept it2. It is said that in Ireland the Castle has lost another question by a majority of nine, but not having yet heard what the question was, I do not give entire credit to the report. ficiently explicit, and the following words were substituted in room thereof, “and will be even instrumental in overturning the present Administration, and of introducing into North America a different police founded in, and supported by, force and rigour'' 1 Afterwards Lord Thurlow, and Lord Chancellor. 2 “It cost him bitter pangs,” says Walpole, “not to preserve his virtue, but his vicious connections. He goggled his eyes, and groped in his money-pocket; more than half consented; nay, so much more, that when he got home, he wrote an excuse to Lord Rockingham, which made it plain that he thought he had accepted.” 240 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, The provision now said to be intended for the princes is to divide the whole 25,000/. among the three. I think this probable; and that some provision will be made this Session is, 1 apprehend, certain. The more 1 consider the Free Port Bill, the more it alarms me. There is no provision to prevent the importation of French manufactures, provided they be the produce of the West Indies; on the contrary, it is presumed that such produce will be brought in manufactured to a certain degree, and if to the greatest degree it is nowhere prohibited. I do not see why the French may not set up two or three looms for cotton stuffs, and in like manner establish other fictitious manufactures in their Islands, and under that colour supply our colonies with whatever they please, which can by possibility be made of the produce of the West Indies, especially as no proof is required of its being actually produced there; and they are allowed to import all goods and commodities, the growth or produce of any colony or plantation, without specifying the particulars, which would not have been difficult. I have the honour to be, &c. Thomas Whately. THE BISHOP OF CARLISLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. London, "May 27, 1766. My dear Sir,—The motion for a provision to be made by Parliament for the two Dukes and Prince Henry, is dropped for this Session, as I am well assured. Lord Hardwicke has accepted the Cabinet, though he refused the Secretary of State’s seals. Lord Rochford is certainly to go Ambassador to Paris, and the Ministry 1760. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 241 are at the greatest loss to find a proper person to succeed him at the Court of Spain. I don’t find anv one has heard a word of a revolution in New Spain, so conclude your friend’s intelligence was ill-founded. There is a whisper about commotions in our North American colonies; and some people go so far as to say that the Declaratory Act has been publicly burnt by the Sons of Liberty; but whether this be so or not, the profound silence of the Ministers about the contents of the last letters received from thence, gives great room to apprehend things are not in a very agreeable situation. The Ministers are embarrassed to the last degree how to act with regard to Wilkes. It seems they are afraid to press the King for his pardon, as that is a subject His Majesty will not easily hear the least mention of; and they are apprehensive, if he has it not, that the mob of London wall rise in his favour, which God forbid. Tom Pitt1 arrived at Paris about ten days ago from Flanders; as he has a good deal to do, and many places to see there and in the environs, I suppose he will not be able to obey Mrs. Grenville’s summons of meeting you all at Shortgrove on the 4th of June. His friend, the Duke of Roxburgh2, has let his house in Windsor Forest to Prince Henry for seven years, at 900/. per annum rent. I remain, most cordially yours. 1 Thomas Pitt, afterwards Lord Camelford. 2 John, third duke of Roxburgh in the peerage of Scotland, and second Earl Ker in that of Great Britain. He died in 1804, when the British honours became extinct. The Duke will be long remembered as a book-collector at a period when the Bibliomania was raging with its greatest virulence. The dispersion of his very curious library, which was sold by auction in 1812, gave rise to the celebrated Roxburgh Club. VOL. HI. R 242 GRENVILLE PAPERS. May, THE BISHOP OF CARLISLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. ’ London, May 29, 1766. My dear Sir,—The House of Lords did not rise ’till seven yesterday evening, having for about four hours debated the Window-Tax Bill. We divided on the Question for Commitment, and the Contents were 57 and Non-contents 16. Proxies were not called for. The Bishops of Bangor and Carlisle were alone in the minority, Lord Abercorn voted with the majority. Before the Order of the Day was called for, Lord Temple moved for the reading the Bill touching the Seizure of Papers, and Friday was appointed for taking it into consideration, when all the Judges are ordered to attend, but as that is the first day of the term, if the Judges cannot conveniently attend, then Monday next is fixed for this business. Lord Chancellor took occasion to tell the House that he should oppose this Bill. Lord Weymouth began the debate on the Window Bill by calling on the Administration in a very proper and brief manner, to explain the general purport of the Bill, the sum that was proposed to be raised by the tax, and the necessity there was for laying a new tax on the people in time of peace. To this, not a single word was answered, and the Chancellor having waited some time, and seeing no one rise, put the question for commitment ; on this the Duke of Bedford rose, and in some heat, cried out shame on the Administration for endeavouring to cram down a tax of this kind merely by force of numbers, and without vouchsafing to say a word in justification of it. This brought up the Duke of Richmond, and afterwards Lord Rockingham, from both of whom the House received very little edification, as you 1766. GRENVILLE POWERS. 243 will easily believe. I shall not trouble you with more particulars relating to this debate, except that the Duke of Bedford in the course of it made very honourable mention of the late Minister, Mr. Grenville; and Lord Temple, as usual, spoke very ably, and proved the immense loss this country sustains by the repeal of the Stamp and Cider Acts. I must not indeed omit telling you that the Duke of Grafton spoke very plausibly in support of the Bill, and concluded with informing the House that he had not gone out of office from a love of ease, and indulgence to his private amusements, as had been falsely reported, but from finding that the man who had raised the reputation of this country higher than ever it was before, while he had the principal direction of public affairs (or words to that effect), was not again employed, which he thought would alone give that dignity and weight to Government which it seemed to have wanted for some time past; that for himself, though he had carried a general's staff, he was ready to take up a mattock or spade under that able and great Minister, whenever he shall be called upon, so far was he from consulting his own private ease. Lord Howe’s resignation surprises everybody; the sole reason he assigns is, Mr. Pitt’s not being in office. His Lordship would have done himself more honour had he resigned his seat at the Admiralty last July, and not accepted the Treasurership of the Navy. I am assured from very good hands, notwithstanding what we heard last week, that no offers were made to Mr. Mackenzie ; but if they had been, he would certainly have rejected them. Adieu, &c., &c. r 2 244 GRENVILLE PAPERS. J une, MR. FRASER1 TO MR. GRENVILLE. Suffolk Street, June 10, 1766. Dear Sir,—You have been so very good to me that I am not afraid of your thinking me impertinent, of however little consequence you may think the matter that occasions you the trouble of reading these lines. You must have heard of, and have probably seen, a political piece which has appeared within these few days, called a History of the late Minority2; it is now published, and advertised in the daily papers; I met to-day, at Leicester House, two or three of Lord Bute’s friends, who seemed nettled at it, and I. could gather that he was himself hurt and surprised that such a publication should be made at this time: they talked as if Lord Temple was the hero, and Lord Bute the butt, and from thence concluded it wrote by a friend, and with the approbation of Lord Temple; and a friend of Lord Bute’s, who is at the same time very much your’s, said to me since, that praise of Lord Temple and abuse of Lord Bute was an unlucky association of ideas at this juncture ; upon the whole, would it not be a pity that a thing of this sort, which, so far as I hear of it, tends to nothing less than that union of ability and integrity so much wished,—would it not be a pity that it should have’ a ’ Eldest son of Simon Lord Lovat, who was executed in 1747 for his share in the rebellion. He was at this time M.P. for Inverness, and as a colonel in the Army he had distinguished himself at Louisburgh and Quebec. He died in 1782. 2 This tract was published and partly compiled by Almon, and notwithstanding the denials that were circulated for Lord Temple, it appears most probable that the materials were principally furnished, if not directly from himself, in some indirect manner, by his authority. Humphrey Cotes was a likely man to have had a principal share in the compilation. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 245 chance of creating a suspicion any way adverse to the amicable (I hope I may call it so) train, in which matters are at present ? If so, I humbly submit how far it would be proper that some person should be authorized to say that it had not Lord Temple’s sanction: if this would not be improper, I am certain it would have a good and most conciliating effect: at any rate, pray, dear Sir, pardon my zeal; if it is blind it is become so from being over keen; for to the respect I bore the Minister, believe me upon the word of a gentleman and a soldier, you have added such an affection for the man, as can never be eradicated. I have the honour to be, &c., &c. S. Fraser. MR. GRENVILLE TO SIMON FRASER, ESQ. Petworth, June 11, 1766. Dear Sir,—With regard to the subject of your letter, I informed my brother, Lord Temple, who is now here, of the publication of the pamphlet which you mention, and can very truly assure you that he has neither advised nor encouraged the writing or publishing of any political paper whatever, and more particularly not this pamphlet, which, he says, contains many mistaken facts, and is contrary to his opinions and plan, as this History of the late Minority attacks both friends and foes, and amongst others your humble servant. I have not read this performance, but from its general tenor and the account I have heard of it, I could have been very sure that this was the case even if I were not authorized to say so. I am, &c., &c. George Grenville. 246 GRENVILLE PAPERS. June, MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. June 13, 1766. Dear Sir,—I take the opportunity of Mr. Lloyd’s meeting you at Salt Hill to write to you on a subject which I am desired to mention to you: it is in relation to a pamphlet or rather book just published, entitled, I think, a Defence of the Minority1 during the former Administrations, and containing a narrative of all the proceedings of party since the present King’s accession. It abuses Lord Bute very liberally, and as it appears to have been written by soijie person attached to Lord Temple, occasion has from thence been taken to surmise that his Lordship might be privy to the publication. You know the sensibility of the person abused in this work to such abuse: Wedderburn has been more than once with me, greatly vexed at the affair, and very anxious to have it in his power to say that Lord Temple knows nothing of the matter. Perhaps you may be able to assert it, if that pamphlet has been accidentally mentioned amongst you at Petworth; if not, you best know whether, and in what manner, you could mention it to Lord Temple, without his being offended either at the suspicion, or at the question. If you can furnish a satisfactory answer to the surmise, Wedderburn thinks it of consequence to have one, and if you will favour me with a line upon it, couched in such terms that it may appear only an answer to my having told you that the publication was ascribed to a friend of Lord Temple, and supposed to be countenanced by him, without mentioning Wedderburn’s name, I will read the paragraph 1 He means a “ History of the late Minority.” The “ Defence ” was written by Charles Townshend, and published subsequently. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 247 to him, and he will know how to make the best use of the information. 1 have had some conversation with Dr. Lloyd on the subject he is engaged in l. His idea seems to be to publish extracts from the papers, which, after the care taken to conceal them from the public eye, will certainly be obnoxious to enquiry, and perhaps raise a general resentment. The substance might be given at large without copying words or affixing names, and would be as effectual. I mean this with respect to the advices from America, the writers of which would be exposed by a publication: as to Conway’s letter that has been already published in the newspapers, and may appear to be taken from thence ; as to the facts, they are of general notoriety, and it is easy to express the sentiments of persons there, as advices received from thence without taking the very terms they use: you are best judge of the weight of these considerations, but I know that if I had been of opinion against printing them by authority of the House, I should be offended at their being published by any other. There is but little political news stirring: the same set of new peers are talked of, though not with great certainty: and the report of a negotiation for Lord Tyrawley’s regiment is stronger than ever. The terms mentioned are a pension to him of 2000/. for fourteen 1 About this time was published a pamphlet, entitled “ A Collection of all the remarkable and personal Passages in the Briton, North Briton and Auditor. London, 1766, 8w.” But the description of Dr. Lloyd’s work would rather imply that it was a collection of extracts from the correspondence from America relating to the Stamp Act, and the proceedings consequent thereupon. It does not appear whether the Dr. Lloyd here mentioned was Dr. Philip Lloyd, Dean of Norwich, or Dr. Pierson Lloyd, one of the Masters of Westminster School. 248 GRENVILLE PAPERS. June, years, and a provision by places for two natural children, which terms are so high, as I suppose the regiment worth little more than 2000/, per annum, that I can hardly believe them. I have delivered your message to Lord North, who would have waited upon you, if he had known you were in town, and will pay his respects to you at Wotton during the summer. x MR. NUGENT1 TO MR. GRENVILLE. Great George Street, June 17, 1766. My dear Sir,—I received by yesterday’s post a letter from Reeve, the Quaker, dated from Bristol, June 14th, informing me that by letters from America received the day before, he is informed that the repeal of the Stamp Act, and the Declaratory Act, were known there, and produced universal joy. He does not name rhe ports from whence his intelligence came. I do not hear a word of news that can be depended upon, except that after having undone everything within the reach of power, which you did for Old England, in Parliament; the arrangements made in Scotland, during Lord Bute’s and his brother’s administration there, are treated with the same unsparing and subversive hand by the Administration ; what the particulars are I do not know. A pamphlet has made its appearance under the title of a History of the late Minority, stuffed with the most virulent abuse upon Lord Bute, and full with the praises of your brother and Mr. Pitt. This last circumstance, added to its publication by Almon, renders it an object 1 Afterwards Viscount Clare and Earl Nugent. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS, 249 of much speculation, from which many are willing to infer, what they wish should be believed by others, that Lord Temple’s enmity continues unabated1. The Chancellor, I am told, talks as freely of his adjuncts as he was wont to do, and I suppose acts with them, although, it is said, there is great variance in the councils held at his house. As I cannot bear the jolting of a horse, I pass my mornings in reading; and the new Act for repealing the late American Duties and substituting others has been this day the subject of my contemplation, in which I find by the last clause but one, that Ireland can be supplied with no one article from America after the 1st of January next. There are other curious particulars, too many for a letter, which will occur to you upon reading the Act. N.B. I had no share in the consultations upon this Act. It is the genuine production of the maiden and spotless Treasury. But I must not laugh : it hurts my bowels. When I can trust them in a journey, I will visit Stowe and Wotton. All I know for certain is, that ray physician gives rae no hopes of being free under a fortnight or three weeks, and that I am tired to death of him and his cooling, purifying draughts : less purification and more warmth have ever suited my constitution best. Our friend of Bucks has set out this morning for Devonshire. We drank your health at parting last night: he in pure wine, and I in wine and water, but with the same unmixed affection and regard with which I shall ever be, &c., &c. R. Nugent. 1 The same report coming from three several correspondents proves how general was the belief that Lord Temple was concerned in the publication of this pamphlet. 250 GRENVILLE PAPERS. June, MR. GRENVILLE TO MR. NUGENT. Wotton, June 21, 1766. My dear Sir,—I have not the least doubt that our brethren in America will express great joy at the repeal of the Stamp Act, especially if they understand by it, as they justly may, notwithstanding the Declaratory Bill passed at the same time, that they are thereby exempted for ever from being taxed by Great Britain for the public support even of themselves, which this kingdom is to pay for them. I think they will be very ungrateful to our American patriots and our American merchants if they do otherwise ; and if your correspondent, Mr. Reeve, and the rest of those gentlemen, will do the same by Buckinghamshire, and double tax themselves to take off our taxes, I will engage for my countrymen here that they shall express as universal joy and more gratitude for the future than we shall meet with from Mr. Reeve’s correspondents in America. The event, however, will show the merit which those who have contributed to this measure are entitled to from this kingdom for the plan which they have followed in Great Britain, Ireland, and the colonies; and I do assure you that I do not envy them all the praise which they will reap from it. I know not the particular measures which you refer to concerning Scotland; but I suppose it is a relaxation of the laws of revenue there, which they are certainly as well entitled to, and will receive as gladly, as if they lived in America. I have the strongest reason to be satisfied that my brother, Lord Temple, has neither advised nor encouraged the publication of the History of the late Minority which you mention, and consequently all reasonings derived from a contrary supposition fall to the ground. I am, &c. * George Grenville. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 251 MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. June 25, 1766. Dear Sir,—I am afraid you will think I give the business upon which I now trouble you too much importance, by sending a messenger on purpose about it; but I could not write upon the subject by the post, and have therefore sent my servant with this letter. The occasion of it is, Mr. Lloyd’s having informed me by a line this morning, that you had desired him to avoid being concerned in any publications, and he takes your injunction so strictly «w pied de la lettre, as to decline proceeding in that which he had begun for me, the consequence of which is, that it is absqhdeiy stopped; for as it is already in the press, there is no possibility of altering the course in which it has been put1. I cannot go to the printer myself, or have any direct intercourse with him, as I would not on any account appear: if Mr. Lloyd attempts to withdraw the papers, he might probably meet with a refusal, and certainly would exasperate the printer to tell all he knows, and to trace the pamphlet when he sees it published by another; whereas if permitted to proceed, it will be his interest to keep the secret, and 1 see no danger -of a discovery; I am sure there is greater danger of his naming Mr. Lloyd, should 1 The pamphlet in question was probably that of which Mr. Whately was the author, entitled “ Considerations on the Trade and Finances of this Kingdom, and on the Measures of Administration with respect to those great National Objects, since the Conclusion of the Peace.” A cotemporary critic says that it contains a clear and concise account of the various branches of the public revenue, and the application of them. Mr. Whately was also the author of a tract called “ Remarks on the Budget,” in answer to one written by Hartley, called “ The Budget,” and he wrote besides an Essay on Landscape Gardening. 252 GRENVILLE PAPERS. June, the work be taken out of his hands. For these reasons 1 should be very glad that you would give me leave to tell Mr. Lloyd that you do not mean to prevent his finishing what he has begun, and which, unless he continues it, will never be finished ; I will then let him know your intention, and you may depend upon both our discretions. Mr. Wedderburn has had a long conversation this morning with Lord Bute, which his Lordship began by asking him what had passed between him and you; Wedderburn related it not as propositions, but merely as discourse, and Lord Bute expressed himself highly pleased with your sentiments, and agreed in all. lie is entirely satisfied with respect to the late publication \ and thinks as you do of Mr. Pitt, particularly he said that he was told Mr. Pitt was eager to come into office ; by which he says I understand very well that he is ready to receive a message from the King, which is not a measure I should ever have a hand in, unexplained as his sentiments are. The Lord Chancellor had an audience of considerable length a few days ago, in which it is said that he told the King that affairs could not go on as they were, and advised the sending for Mr. Pitt2; to which the answer was, I do not mean to be a slave; and the reply to that was, that slavery would be better than the present situa- 1 “ The History of the late Minority.” I suppose Mr. Whately means that Lord Bute is satisfied with Mr. Grenville’s assurance that Lord Temple was not concerned in that publication, and it was no doubt strictly true, as far as Mr. Grenville had any knowledge of the matter. 2 In a fortnight after this date the Lord Chancellor wrote to Mr. Pitt inclosing a letter from the King (see Chatham Correspondence, vol. ii. p. 434), desiring his presence in town, and “having his thoughts how an able and dignified Ministry may be formed.” 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 253 tion ; I do not give entire credit to this account, though I have heard the Chancellor himself quoted for it; but it is certain that he is very declared against the present people; and it is added that in the Closet he said, he must resign if they continued. Accounts are come from America since they received the news of the repeal; I think the date of the letters is about the 12th of May. I do not find that the Ministry give out any particulars, from whence I conclude that they have received none they like. I hear from New York that since the rejoicings for the repeal, the Sons of Liberty assembled in a body of above 500, to rescue a person committed for a trespass, and did rescue him : this is true. I hear too, but I doubt whether it is true, that the Assembly of South Carolina have, since the rejoicing, voted themselves independent of Great Britain. I fancy there is some mistake in this, as it comes only from one quarter, and through three or four hands. I must trouble you for an answer by the bearer, and I hope that it will be such as will in this one instance permit Mr. Lloyd to proceed just so far as may be necessary for finishing what is begun, as the completing it will be less hazardous than the breaking it off abruptly. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. June 29, 1766. Dear Sir,—I am favoured with yours by my servant, and entirely agree with you on the propriety of that caution you recommend to----------\ but in this instance I 1 Charles Lloyd. Mr. Grenville had replied that he was only desirous that Lloyd should not subject himself to a charge of breach of trust and its consequences, with regard to the offices he held under the Treasury, and recommended the utmost caution. 254 GRENVILLE PAPERS. June, verily believe it would have been more dangerous to retract than to proceed; and it is settled in a method which will be perfectly secure, and in which he will not personally interfere. As soon as my business is completed, I shall pay my respects to you. I liave seen to-day the person1 you wish me to come with; he has had more conversation on the same subject, and in the same strain; but for my own part, I question whether anything will be done immediately ; my conjecture is, that the wish will be to wait for an event; but if none happens soon, I believe it may not be waited for, and some sudden step may be. taken. I am pestered every day with the reports of changes; my answer is that I know of none, but that I conclude from the general expectation, that it is the general opinion there ought to be one ; and indeed the expectation is universal. 1 believe 1 told you in my last that the Ministers had failed in their attempt to remove Lord Eglintoun and Mr. Dyson2: they have this week failed again in their creation of peers, which affair is now entirely at an end. I hear no more particulars from America. Some of their Assemblies must, however, have sat before another mail can arrive, and we shall then see what reception they give to the requisition. The news from the East Indies, which you see in the papers, sunk that stock about one per cent., and yet 1 think it cannot be true : the French letters which mention it are of the 27th of August, from Chandanagore, and the Company’s letters of the 1st of October from Calcutta, which is but four hundred miles from Chanda- 1 Mr. Wedderburn. 2 Lord Eglintoun was a Lord of the Bedchamber, and Jeremiah Dyson was a Commissioner of the Board of Trade; both of them were in the intimate confidence of Lord Bute. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 255 nagore, and that down the river Hoogly, take no notice of it. I forgot to tell you in my last the general idea which your visitor1 last week gave of the discourse he had with you; he said when he was asked what had passed, that your sentiments were invariably the same as those you had expressed at the interview in the winter, and that your conversation with him was a comment on that text. I think the reference was good, and should not be lost sight of. Sir J. Lowther has had a disagreeable squabble with one Gale, of Whitehaven, whom he met, and who insulted him at Carlisle races, but Sir James acquitted himself with credit; behaved with temper at the time ; endeavoured to prevent any interposition, but by the information of his adversary, was put under arrest. MR. WILLIAM GERARD HAMILTON2 TO EARL TEMPLE. Hampton Court, July 1, 1766. My dear Lord,—I have declined making use of the liberty you are so obliging as to allow me, and have denied myself, for some days past, the pleasure of writing to you, because I could not satisfy myself that any of the reports which prevail at present were authentic enough to justify my troubling your Lordship with a communication of them. As I have been entirely in the country, I had not ’till this morning an opportunity of an inter- 1 Mr. Wedderburn. 2 M.P. for Pontefract, well known by the sobriquet of Single Speech. The celebrated speech which gained him the name was made in the House of Commons in November, 1755. His subsequent career disappointed the expectations which had been raised by his first exhibition of parliamentary eloquence. He was for some time Chancellor of the Exchequer in Ireland, and died in 1796. 256 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, view with my friend \ or of inquiring into the manner in which your Lordship’s answer was received by those to whom he promised to report it immediately, and whether anything, and what, was likely to be the consequence of it. He assures me, in the most positive manner imaginable, that the dispositions of the Court are as favourable to your Lordship as they possibly can be; and even as they who have the honour of being acquainted with you as well as I am, know they ought to be; and that everything must end, at no very great distance of time, in the manner which the friends of the public and your Lordship would wish. The Chancellor has been into the Closet to execute what he has so long threatened, and to inform His Majesty that he should prefer resigning his office, to holding it with an Administration so unqualified for the service of the Crown or the public. This is his own report of his conduct, and it is credited by those who would have the means of contradicting it if it were untrue. The friends of Lord Bute assert that Lord Hertford has made an offer, and a very submissive one, of his own services and of his relations’ at Court, but that they were absolutely rejected; and my friend bears positive testimony to the truth of this fact. I think your Lordship may rely upon these two particulars, that Lord Holland left London much dissatisfied with the Court, and the Court with him ; and that Lord Egmont is the most desponding part of a very desponding Administration. He certainly has lost the ground which he once had, and will fall a sacrifice upon any 1 The friend alluded to was probably Sir Fletcher Norton, and Mr. Hamilton seems to imply that there had been some communication between Lord Bute and Lord Temple at this time. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 257 change of system. Lord Holland made some request, but what I can’t leam, the success of which he had much at heart \ It was countenanced by the Administration, and discouraged by the Closet. You may possibly be entertained, but I think you will not be surprised, when I tell you that the Duke of Newcastle has been of late imploring the protection of the Princess of Wales, for himself and his friends. He has laboured this point by every method in his power, but I have not as yet heard that he has succeeded in it. The plan of the Court is evidently and avowedly, not to remove these Ministers from their employments, if it can be avoided; but to reduce them to the necessity of relinquishing them. The Duke of Richmond, Lord Hertford, and General Conway regularly oppose, upon occasions serious and trifling, Lord Rockingham, the Duke of Newcastle, and Winchilsea; and Mr. Conway is particularly free in declaring his utter ignorance of every thing except the mere business of his office. Nothing seems to have declined more rapidly than Lord Albemarle’s influence. The refusal of some military requests, and the appointment of the three Princes as joint Rangers of the Park at Windsor, which it is said is now to take place, and which was known to be a very favourite object with his Lordship, has diminished exceedingly the reputation of the weight which he affected. I understand from my friend that Mr. Wedderburn has lately paid a visit to Mr. Grenville, and is soon to be with your Lordship at Stowe. I flatter myself that 1 Perhaps an Earldom, which it is well known was the object of Lord Holland’s ambition. VOL. HI. S 258 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, he will confirm everything which I had the honour of communicating to you, and that I shall be found to have executed both your commands, and those with which my friend entrusted me, with tolerable exactness, and with an attention which I must ever show, where your Lordship’s interests are so nearly concerned. A mixture of friendship and of business may possibly bring me within a few miles of Stowe towards the 20th of this month, and rather I think before it. If that time should not interfere with Princess Amelia’s visit, and you will permit me, I am not without thoughts of troubling you for a single day, provided your Lordship grants me another favour, and will suffer me not to consider this visit as an exclusion of the pleasure I propose to myself from being at Stowe in autumn. Believe me, my dear Lord, most faithfully and affectionately yours, &c., &c. — — —1 Lord Rockingham’s part of the Administration are (by what means I can’t learn) exasperated beyond measure with Mr. Townshend, and have informed him that nothing but their removal shall prevent his being either absolutely dismissed, or obliged to take an office, where he shall be active and support them, instead of being indolent and ridiculing them. MR. JENKINSON2 TO MR. GRENVILLE. Paris, July 6, 1766. My dear Sir,—I take the liberty to send you some account of myself, though I have little to say that can 1 All Mr. Hamilton’s letters to Lord Temple are signed with three dashes instead of his name. 2 Afterwards Viscount Hawkesbury, and Earl of Liverpool. 1766 GRENVILLE PAPERS 259 be in the least interesting to you. I have now been five weeks in this country, which I have spent either in the great towns of Normandy, or at the house of Duc d’Harcourt. The recommendation of Mons, de Guerchy has procured me everywhere the politest reception, so that I have hitherto every reason in the world to be satisfied with my journey. The Duc d’ Harcourt is a fine old man of about seventy, and is as fond of farming as his namesake in England. Fie is Governor of Normandy, the richest province in France, and as in that quality he keeps constantly an open house, the noblesse of the Province flock in to him. I have seen frequently between twenty and thirty persons who lay in the house, and I am told that towards the autumn, when they have Comedies there, the number is much greater, and there is in their manner of living a degree of magnificence and splendour which I ha^e never seen in England. I left Harcourt on Wednesday last, and came here on Friday evening. I saw in my way two remarkable places—Navarre, the house of the Duke of Bouillon, which Henry IV. gave that family in lieu of Sedan ; and Rhosny, the birth-place and residence of the great Duke of Sully. The first of these is a very fine thing ; it is surrounded by the noblest woods I ever saw, and though the gardens are laid out in the taste of this country, yet they are good in their kind. The last is a good old house in the midst of a great estate, and carries with it many marks of ancient splendour. But alas! the present inhabitants of these houses are strangely different from those who were the ancient possessors of them. The bouse of Navarre still belongs to the family s 2 260 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, of Bouillon; but that family depends on two young men, the eldest of which is a decrepit idiot, and the second a lame dwarf. The eldest is just going to be married to a Princess of Hesse, in hopes that by this junction the family may not only be perpetuated, but a little of their ancient vigour restored to it. But Rhosny no longer belongs to the House of Sully: it is in the possession of one who has gained a great fortune in the finances, by those means which it was Sully’s merit to oppose, and thereby saved his country. I was so struck with the place, the different characters of the two possessors, and the several circumstances of their history, that I returned to my inn full of meditation, and if I had been in England, and the Parliament sitting, I should certainly the next day have spoke a philippic against the present Administration. I have not seen much of this place yet; Mons, de Guerchy is returned to France, but he is at present at Versailles. I have heard no politics since I left England, except what a few letters from thence have brought me, and if I knew any, it would not be proper to trust them to this conveyance. I am, &c., &c. C. Jenkinson. MR. WEDDERBURN TO MR. GRENVILLE. Lincoln’s Inn, July 9, 1706. Dear Sir,—I have been flattering myself from day to day with the hopes of waiting upon you this week, and have been constantly disappointed. As often as I have thought I saw the period of my business in town approaching, new matters coming in upon me have obliged me to go on reluctantly, and I now find myself under 1766. GRENVILLE TAPERS. 261 the disagreeable necessity of leaving several things unfinished that all the industry I could employ has not been able to accomplish. Whately will testify for me that I have laboured very hard to get out of town two or three days before the circuit; and as 1 never had so strong a motive, I can with great truth assure you 1 never took half the pains to get business, that I have now done ineffectually to get rid of it. As soon as the circuit is finished I propose returning to this part of the world, and hope you will give me leave to take the earliest opportunity of making myself amends for a disappointment 1 feel very much. Lord Temple was so good as to mention me to a friend of mine, who had the honour of seeing him at Stowe the day before yesterday, and told him he expected me there. It is a very sensible addition to my disappointment in not waiting upon you, that I am likewise deprived of this opportunity of paying my respects to Lord Temple; and as you was so good as to propose carrying me there, I have the pleasure to think you will do me the justice to assure Lord Temple of the regret I have in not being able to profit of it at present. The approach of a circuit used generally to be very pleasant to me. It happens now to be quite the reverse; I have many reasons for wishing to remain in this neighbourhood ; and though some of them are very interesting to a man’s own heart, 1 cannot impute my reluctance to them alone, for I am sensible my journey would be much less unpleasant if it did not remove from me an opportunity of assuring you of the very sincere regard with which I have the honour to be, &c., &c. Al. Wedderburn. 262 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. Friday, July 11, 1766. Dear Sir,—I have very little to inform you of, not knowing what has passed at St. James’s; but Mr. Pitt arrived this morning, and has been there. The message was sent for him on Monday last; the Chancellor wrote the letter \ and is the only acting person in the transaction. The world, you may be sure, suppose another2 to be privy to it, upon which a friend3 of yours, who was to have been with you this week, and to have gone over with you to Stowe, desires me to tell you that the appearances are, that no other person took any part in it, and that he is persuaded there has been no previous communication. He bids me add, that his own sentiments are what they always were, and I understand that those of another person4 with whom he is much connected are the same. I stay in town to be in the way to communicate to you any intelligence which may concern you; and I wish you would let Lord Temple know (as he is expected here to-morrow) that if he has occasion for any particular communication to you, and wants a person to convey it, I am ready to set out for Wotton at a moment’s warning. If I did not fear he might think it presumption in me, I should myself offer my services5. The speculations of the day are, that Lord Temple 1 See Chatham Correspondence, vol. ii. p. 434. 2 Lord Bute. 3 Mr. Wedderburn. 4 Sir Fletcher Norton. 8 “ This poor man (Whately) with the talents of an attorney, sets up for an Ambassador, and with the agility of Colonel Bodens, undertakes to be a courier”—Junius, iii. 310. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 263 will be at the head of the Treasury; and that General Conway is not to be dismissed; the Duke of Grafton a Secretary of State: but all this is mere speculation. Lord Rockingham’s friends express great resentment. Lord Hertford appears not displeased, and the Chancellor is very happy. I shall hardly miss writing to you every post. THE LORD CHANCELLOR TO EARL TEMPLE. London, July 13, 1766, 4 p.m. My Lord,—I have just now received His Majesty’s commands to let your Lordship know that the King desires to see you in London, as soon as you can with convenience to yourself. Mr. Pitt is in London, and I believe His Majesty wishes to have a conversation with your Lordship on the subject of giving force and effect to his Government. This charge from His Majesty was, your Lordship must think, a very agreeable one to me, who have always had so just a regard for your Lordship and your family. I have the honour to be, with the greatest respect, my dear Lord, your Lordship’s most obedient and most humble Servant, Northington. EARL TEMPLE TO THE LORD CHANCELLOR. Stowe, July 14, 1766, 7 a.m. My Lord,—My zeal to obey His Majesty’s commands signified to me by your Lordship, will cany me to town with all the dispatch in my power at so short a warning. No man in the kingdom can wish more ardently than 264 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, I do to see force and effect given to the King’s Government, having long lamented for my country, as your Lordship knows, the want of it. Permit me to assure your Lordship that I cannot receive the honour of the King’s orders through any channel more agreeable to me than that of your Lordship, for I have always been with the greatest truth and respect, my dear Lord, your Lordship’s most obedient and most humble Servant, Temple. THE LORD CHANCELLOR TO EARL TEMPLE. July 15, 1766. My Lord,—Though I dispatched my messenger as soon as I rose, yet the King being out, and not returning ’till 12, I have but now, 5 min. past 2, received His Majesty’s answer, which is that he desires to see your Lordship between 5 and 6 this evening at Richmond1. I have the honour to be, with great respect, my dear Lord, &c., &c. Northington. THE DUKE OF BEDFORD TO MR. GRENVILLE. Woburn Abbey, July 16, 1766, half past 3, p.m. Dear Sir,—The account you give me of some late 1 Lord Temple had notified his arrival in London on the previous evening, and had received the following from the Chancellor:—“My dear Lord, I am just awake', and can only say to your Lordship that as I transmitted the King’s commands to your Lordship, who is now at Richmond, I will notify to him as soon as I rise, your Lordship’s arrival, and communicate to you his further commands on the intended interview. I am, &c. Northington. 11th, half-past 11, in bed. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 265 transactions1, though you call it an imperfect one, is much more perfect than any that I have hitherto received. The first notice I had of Mr. Pitt’s being sent for to town by His Majesty’s command, was by a gentleman who came hither from London on Thursday evening, on which day Lord Gower arrived here from Trentham, in order to be of the Stowe party, to which Lord Temple had invited him: he left this place on Sunday, in order to go to London, but as I have heard nothing from him since that time, I suppose nothing yet transpires of what has passed in the Cabinet. I had fixed likewise to have gone for London for two days on Sunday last, in order to have seen my son and Lady Tavistock, but this report of the great transactions carrying on in London induced me to postpone that journey, as I was sensible many idle reports would probably be propagated on Lord Gower’s and my coming up to town together at this critical time. I expect to see Lord and Lady Walde-grave here this evening, who will at least bring me the common talk of the town, but I believe no intelligence worth detaining your servant for. Mr. Rigby left me to be at the Chelmsford Assizes to-morrow. If he hears anything material this evening in London, I have desired him to send me word of it. I wish a solid and permanent Administration may now be fixed on. I shall rejoice (though a private man) to be able to act in Parliament in support of it. It has been told me from pretty good authority that the King expressed himself to General Conway in the presence of the Duke of Richmond, as wishing to be able to continue the former in his service : this was a severe stroke on the Duke. I can’t help mentioning a 1 See Mr. Grenville’s letter in Bedford Correspondence, iii. 340. 266 GRENVILLE PAPERS. Jq1L very improbable report Lord Essex brought us, after we were set down to dinner, from the Assizes at Hertford, where Lord Mansfield was not present, and the reason assigned for it was, that Mr. Pitt was to dine with him that day at Kenwood. I am, &c., &c. Bedford. THE LORD CHANCELLOR TO EARL TEMPLE. 12 o’clock, July 17, 1766. My Lord,—I have just received His Majesty’s commands to signify to your Lordship that the King will be glad to see your Lordship at the Queen’s house at 3 this day, after the Drawing-room \ 1 have the honour to be, with great respect, &c., &c. Northington. 1 This was Lord Temple’s last audience ; he had previously seen the King on the 15th, and in the interim had long consultations with Mr. Pitt. The King’s letter to Mr. Pitt, {Chatham Correspondence, vol. ii. p. 443,) describing his interview with Lord Temple, and his inclinations “ to quarters very heterogeneous to my and your ideas,” did not afford much expectation of a favourable result, and Mr. Calcraft, who had formed his judgment from Lord Temple’s own report, writes to Mr. Pitt on the same day, that he has “ some reason to fear Lord Temple’s reception at Richmond was not the most flattering.” At the second audience, however, Lord Temple mentions that the King was “ very gracious,” but he adds, “ and I believe not a little delighted at my declining.” It is most probable that Lord Temple upon this, as upon other similar occasions, had much over-rated his own importance; and the King’s having made the first application to Mr. Pitt, besides having distinguished him by letters written with his own hand, were circumstances which did not tend to conciliate the natural haughtiness, or to soften the usual impracticability, of Lord Temple’s political character. 176K. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 267 EARL TEMPLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. Stowe, Friday, 6 o’clock, a.m., July 18, 1766. My dear Brother,—I am this instant returned from London, which I left last night a little after nine. You will easily foresee that I have declined. The intended basis of the new, virtuous, and patriotic Administration is to he the Rump of the last, strengthened by the particular friends of Mr. Pitt, the whole consisting of all the most choice spirits who did in the last Session most eminently distinguish themselves in the sacrifice of the rights and honour of the whole Legislature and Kingdom of Great Britain. At the head of this I might have stood a capital cypher, surrounded with cyphers of quite a different complexion, the whole under the guidance of that great Luminary, the great Commoner, with the Privy Seal in his hand. It was thought extraordinary that I should dream of a Cabinet place for Lord Lyttelton, but as an act of special grace to me, he might have been indulged with a place, and called to the Cabinet, as I suppose of the hanging Committee. Lord Gower, Secretary of State, could not be thought of. I had my last audience of the King yesterday at three o’clock. I stayed with him an hour: very gracious, and I believe not a little delighted with my declining. Illuminations, City Address, &c., all preparing: whether any damp will be cast upon them, I know not. I have not stated you as a Candidate for anything, but most expressly declined it, as a thing of more dignity 2G8 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, for you, and a proof of my infinite moderation compared with all the insolence in return. I suppose I shall be much abused, as the public is much disappointed, but I am more sinned against than sinning. Thus ends this political farce of my journey to town, as it was always intended, and I am now going to bed to get a little sleep, and to rise very happy. Nugent will not be Vice-Treasurer. I just learn, my cook, drunk from the Assizes, has tumbled off his horse ’. I have one coming from London, but if he does not recover, I believe 1 must send a file of musqueteers for yours. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. Saturday, July 19, 1766. Dear Sir,—The impossibility of writing all my sentiments by the post, occasions my sending a servant with this letter, by which conveyance you may return me an answer as freely, as there really is occasion for some communication, for the reasons of Lord Temple’s departure not being known has given rise to a variety of reports, and authority is wanting to contradict them. The first cause assigned was, that it was proposed to restore Mr. Mackenzie; the next, that there was too much consideration of Lord Bute in the intended arrangement. While these were current, I went to Sir Fletcher Norton, whom I found in the best disposition that could be, but totally uninformed. 1 A serious inconvenience on the eve of a Royal visit. The Princess Amelia and a large party, including the Duke and Duchess of Bedford, the Duke and Duchess of Marlborough, Lord Gower, Lord Walde-grave, &c., were expected at Stowe in the following week. 176G. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 269 The account which took place of these were, that Mr. Pitt refused to admit Lord Lyttelton to the Cabinet, and another is now told of his objecting to Lord Gower as Secretary of State. I have again seen Sir Fletcher this morning, and met Lord Darlington with him: there are no others of Lord Bute’s friends in town, and Lord Bute himself stays pertinaciously in the country, postponing his return from day to day. Both these gentlemen took a side against Mr. Pitt, and talked of opposition. No notice has been taken of Lord Bute; they do not like Mr. Pitt, and they expressed themselves in the strongest terms with respect to you. After Lord Darlington was gone, Sir Fletcher wished me to set out for Wotton, only to ask of you the real reasons, and the circumstances of this transaction, both to have a story for the world, and to furnish him with facts on which he might know what to do. I told him I would set out this afternoon if he had anything he wished to say to you; upon which he recollected himself, and said, that things were not quite ripe yet; in a day or two he should know more, and desired me to see him on Tuesday next. Against that time I wish to be furnished with such facts as may be material, and with your sentiments upon the present situation: I do not mean a letter to be shown, but to be apprised myself of whatever you may think proper in confidence to me, either to be used or not as you may direct, or occasions may offer. Sir Fletcher’s declared opinion is to prefer you to all others, and that no settlement is good which has not that object at least ultimately in view; to establish an union between Lord Bute, Lord Temple, and yourself; and in short, to pursue the plan which he has laboured all the winter. He says that he has prevailed on Lord Bute, as he 270 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, thinks, to give up the idea of restoring Mr. Mackenzie to the same office, and is persuaded that neither Lord Temple nor you mean to insist that he shall never be in any office; he wishes even for an English one. lie doubts whether Mr. Pitt will venture to go on: if he does, he supposes that an Administration formed on the narrow bottom which he is now confined to will not last, and has every prejudice against his conduct. I find that he has a constant correspondence with Lord Bute, and he told me that if anything particular occurred he would send for me from Nonsuch, where I am going for a little fresh air, to stay ’till Tuesday. From all these symptoms I thought he had a mind to write to Lord Bute, before he saw me again, and at the same time to give me an opportunity of knowing your sentiments; and if in giving them to me, you would take an opportunity which the subject naturally leads to, of saying something favourable of Lord Bute, of his friends, and of Sir Fletcher particularly, either from yourself alone, or from both Lord Temple and you, I might perhaps use it to advantage. The point I drive at is, to have it said where it will have weight, that an Administration formed on a narrow bottom will not remedy the present disorder. I hinted that the King might without impropriety wish to extend it. He let the insinuation pass without reply, but it is evident as Lord Bute disavows the present transaction, and seems to be neglected, that this is an opportunity, if you choose it, to strengthen a connexion with that quarter, without the appearance of soliciting to court favour. You know Sir Fletcher always desired it. Lord Darlington took occasion to show that he wished it, and said you were the first man in this kingdom for abilities. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 271 I saw yesterday a letter from Lord George Sackville, in which he observed that if the new arrangement included Mr. Grenville it would have stability ; if not, it would be an Administration of Parade, not of business, and I am happy to hear from all sides the wishes of all men enter into the same sort of idea: but still that popularity of Mr. Pitt will, in my opinion, bear him up against many difficulties, though it is not so great as it was, yet for some time men will not see that it is declining. The general supposition is, that he will go on to form an Administration, which now cannot be very different from the last, or the present, for I do not know which to call them. He has sent Nuthall round to Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Grafton, Lord Shelburne, and General Conway. He is better in his health, but I do not find he has seen the King. The present people are in spirits since Lord Temple’s departure, for they feared him more than they do Mr. Pitt; but still it is supposed that the Duke of Newcastle and Lord Rockingham will have no pretensions with him. It is given out that Lord Rockingham says he wishes Mr. Pitt may be able to form an Administration which he can support, and the saying ascribed to the Chancellor is, that he must make it out somehow or other; else these fools will turn him out, if they are not greater fools than he takes them to be. It is rumoured that Lord Shelburne has agreed to accept of the Admiralty, but this and every other report is so very vague, that 1 give no credit to any of them. I have heard that you arc to be at Stowe this week, and should be obliged to you if you will let me know your motions, as it is not impossible I may suddenly set out 272 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, for Buckinghamshire, and shall be glad to know where to find you if I do. EARL TEMPLE TO EARL GOWER. (From a draft in Lady Temple's hand.) Stowe, July 19, 1766. My Lord,—At my return from the Queen’s house on Thursday I did myself the honour of calling upon your Lordship to ask your pardon for the liberty I had taken, without your knowledge or approbation, to state your Lordship as a person who I wished to see one of His Majesty’s Principal Secretaries of State. The service which I was sure your Lordship would do to your King and country, led me to that nomination, and the conviction of it was so strong upon my mind that I hope I shall be forgiven by your Lordship. This idea did not meet with Mr. Pitt’s approbation. Other circumstances concurred to make it impossible for me to engage in the King’s service in the high station to which His Majesty has been graciously pleased again to call me. The plan of an administration, formed entirely of those who had in the course of the last sessions so disgracefully sacrificed the honour and interests of the King and kingdom, could not meet with my approbation ; and if a lead of superiority was claimed, it was rejected, on my part, with an assertion of my pretensions to an equality, \ will apprize your Lordship, and my other friends, of more particulars when I have the honour of seeing you and them. In the meantime, be so good to communicate this letter to the Duke of Bedford. 1766. GRENVILLE TAPERS. 273 Lady Temple and I join in begging the favour of your Lordship to assure the whole House of Woburn of our best respects; and I have only to add for myself, that if you forgive me you will make happy, my Lord, your Lordship’s, &c., &c. Temple. I returned to this place in the night of Thursday, as 1 was resolved no family considerations should prevent the formation of a Ministry upon a plan of general union. I entirely waived any pretensions for my brother, and in so doing I thought I gave a high proof of my moderation and real desire to facilitate the success of this new negotiation. My brother, who called here with Nugent last night, and left us this morning, did not intend to write to the Duke of Bedford, as he knew I was so soon to have the honour of seeing his Grace. MR. GRENVILLE TO MR. WHATELY. Wotton, July 20, 1766. Dear Whately,—However desirous I am to enable you to contradict the various falsehoods which have been, and I know will be, industriously spread concerning the late transaction, yet I am sure you will see the utter impossibility of entering into a full detail of all that has passed, within the bounds of a letter, or of doing more than to give you some general outline of it and reserve the rest ’till I see you here, which for many reasons I wish may be as soon as is convenient to you. Lord Temple’s sudden return to Stowe on Thursday night sufficiently shows that he had determined not to give his concurrence, and engage in the new, or rather old, sys- vol.in. T 274 GRENVILLE PAPERS. My, tern of men and measures. He saw Mr. Pitt but once, which was at Hampstead, on Wednesday. The proposition made to him was, to stand as a capital cypher in the most responsible situation in the kingdom, surrounded with other cyphers of a different complexion, the whole under the absolute guidance and nomination of Mr. Pitt, who was to hold the office of Lord Privy Seal, and consequently to run no risk or have any trouble but as far as he chose it. Every dependant of Mr. Pitt’s was to be brought into office, and no other changes to be made but what were necessary for that purpose. It was not pretended that there was any change of measures, and the change of men consisted in giving three or four of the first offices of the kingdom to some of the immediate friends of Mr. Pitt, who, joined with General Conway, and the Rump of the last Administration, were to compose the present Ministry. This was the modest proposition to which Lord Temple was invited to accede, and which Mr. Pitt well knew that he would not consent to, before the King, in consequence of Mr. Pitt’s advice, sent for him to come to town. His wish was union, but not obedience, which neither his rank, fortune, nor inclination will allow him to admit of in contradiction to the public opinion which he had declared last Sessions, and in support of some new measures which he foresees that he may probably not approve. He immediately rejected it as highly unfit to be made to him by one who knew that he would not accept it, and to whom in the like case he would not have offered it. He expressed his desire of union to strengthen the King’s Government, and to give it both credit and stability, for which purpose he had endeavoured to divest himself of private affections and prejudices, and, as far 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 275 as was possible, to bring into His Majesty’s service as much weight and ability as could be got together at this critical conjuncture ; that he was sorry to find that Mr. Pitt’s plan was so very different from it, and that ideas of so little moderation and temper had taken possession of his mind; that as this was the case, it was needless to talk further upon principles so totally inadmissible. Here he wished to close it, and I rejoice extremely to be able to tell you that he expressly declined making any mention of me upon this occasion, which I think is much more for my dignity and honour, and for his own, as his refusal cannot now be attributed to personal views for his own family. The causes assigned for his refusal, that it was because it was proposed to restore Mr. Mackenzie, and that too much consideration was had of Lord Bute in the intended arrangement, are, I am confident, without the least foundation, and I am still persuaded that neither Mr. Mackenzie’s nor Lord Bute’s name were ever mentioned in the whole conversation; but the account of Mr. Pitt’s having refused a Cabinet Council office to Lord Lyttelton, and of his having objected to Lord Gower as Secretary of State, is I believe very true. I understand that his intention was to take the Privy Seal himself, to give the office of President of the Council to the Duke of Grafton, and those of the two Secretaries of State to Lord Shelburne and Mr. Conway. This is the great comprehensive plan as far as I have heard of it for giving that vigour, experience and ability to the public offices, and for restoring that union of all parties, that temper and harmony, that confidence and permanency in Government, which have been said to be so much wanted, and for the attainment of which the t 2 276 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, King has been prevailed upon to take the extraordinary step of sending for Mr. Pitt out of Somersetshire in contradiction to the opinion which His Majesty was said to have adopted last Sessions, of not seeing him except upon a plan and principles which had been previously explained to him. I do not hear how it was determined to fill up the vacancy-made by Lord Temple’s refusal, which must have been foreseen, and was certainly expected, and whether any alterations may now be made in this system, formed upon such disinterested, temperate, conciliating, and extended views. I take it for granted that they will all serve the King and the public without salaries, as we have been solemnly assured by the newspapers that they would, or at least that they would let them lie in the Treasury, where we have been repeatedly told with equal modesty and veracity, and half England really believes, that the three thousand pounds a-year which was payable to Mr. Pitt as Secretary of State now lie unapplied. To speak seriously, I am glad to hear from several hands that Lord Bute disclaims the present transaction, which is certainly founded upon principles widely different from those which I am told he laid down with such general approbation in the House of Lords last Sessions, and which I hear from many of his friends he is determined to abide by. As to my sentiments on this subject, I may be too much prejudiced to form them impartially, but at least you can bear me witness, as well as Sir Fletcher Norton, in the conversations I have had with him, that the language I have holden has been that of temper and moderation with respect to my own feelings, and a desire to promote it in every other man. I am very much obliged to Sir F. Norton for his good opinion of me, and 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 277 for the manner in which you tell me he has expressed it, and still more so for the justice he does me. I at no time contended that Mr. Mackenzie should never hold any office, not even at the time when, for variety of reasons which you know, I carried to the King the proposition for removing him from the office of Lord Privy Seal of Scotland. Sir F. Norton, therefore, very justly thinks that it would be a strange thing if after what has passed, when he believes that Lord Bute has given up the idea of restoring him to the same office, and wishes even for an English one, that in return for it I should now take up and insist upon the contrary opinion. As to Lord Temple, I have not talked to him upon this subject. I cannot take upon me to give any answer, but Sir F. Norton must have heard his general sentiments from a friend of his, who has often talked to Lord Temple about Lord Bute and his friends. I am, &c., &c. George Grenville. I trust this letter to your discretion, as the subject is of a delicate nature, to contradict any falsehoods which have been raised, or any wrong impressions which have been given. ? EARL TEMPLE TO --------’ Stowe, July 20, 1766. My dear Lord,—I received the honour of your Lordship’s most obliging letter last night I left London on Thursday night after two conferences with His Majesty, and one with Mr. Pitt; I could not 1 This letter is from a rough draft without any address. 278 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July lend myself to the ideas of the latter, whose plan of the future Ministry consisted entirely of those who, in my opinion, sacrificed in the last Sessions most ignominiously the honour and interests of the King and kingdom, the consequence of which would have been the making me a cypher, at the head of the first department in administration. For the sake of public and general union I was willing to accommodate myself to Mr. Pitt’s negative to my brother Grenville being a part of the intended Ministry, and I never proposed it. I felt it was impossible to give a higher mark of my desire of universal conciliation ; after which I claimed an equality, and have no idea of yielding to him in a bystanding situation, or indeed in any other, a superiority which I think it would be unbecoming in me to give. Thus am I deprived of the means of accomplishing what it is pretended I was called to, having only to add that both in and out of government, I am, my dear Lord, much your obedient humble servant, Temple. I stated Lord Lyttelton for a Cabinet Council office, which was not agreed to, nor was my idea of making Lord Gower a Secretary of State consented to, Mr. Pitt having objections to both. The nomination of Chancellor of the Exchequer, and of my whole Board, was left to me. MR. NUGENT TO MR. GRENVILLE. London, July 22, 1766. My dear Sir,—I saw Lord Shelburne yesterday in the evening, who expressed himself sorry and hurt at 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 279 the late event. He spoke of Lord Temple and you in the same terms which he has always used with me, and seemed convinced that Mr. Pitt’s idea of an union with your brother was founded on a perfect equality. No plan has yet transpired, and if none has yet been formed for a new treasury, as is generally believed, the inference seems pretty clear that Mr. Pitt depended upon Lord Temple’s acceptance. The Rockinghamites are, I am told, extremely elated on vour brother’s departure, and now say they always wished for Mr. Pitt, and only feared him. I am, &c., &c, R. Nugent. LADY CHATHAM TO EARL TEMPLE. North End, July 22, 1766. You will not wonder, my dear Brother, that my answer to your last kind letter is dated from hence. Mr. Pitt’s fever returning again, he very well knowing what I should feel in continuing at so great a distance from him, in so painful a circumstance, kindly left to me to decide upon my own motions, when he writ to give me an account of his health. Our dear children being, thank God, happily all well, I was under no suspense about my determination, but set out immediately, and went Friday evening part of my way in company with the little ones, who are gone to Weymouth, much I hope both for their health and pleasure. I arrived here yesterday morning, and had the comfort to find Mr. Pitt considerably mended, but with not half so good looks as when we parted. I cannot express to my dear Brother the sensible joy it is to me to under- 280 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, stand from Mr. Pitt, that, though you upon the whole did not agree in sentiments upon things in question, yet your differing was with the greatest kindness and friendship imaginable towards him, and which I assure you is felt by no less pleasing satisfaction by him than by me. I indulge a hope that now some way or other it may be possible for a visit to be made to Stowe by no less rapturous admirers than the Prince de Cruy himself. I am extremely glad that your own passion for it is revived again, though it seems as if it were a little indebted for it to foreign praises, which by confirming its merits, reproves your inconstancy. I desire to put you in mind in return for your twigs, that your overgrown timber is not upon the scale of a garden, and that the competition is not between parks. In short, I will not give Stowe up to any place. As your own, in civility, you may if you please. I long to show you Burton Pynsent, because it belongs to us, and because there is something not quite common about it. You know I have your promise. Adieu, my dear Brother, I don’t know but you are still amidst your grandeurs, and therefore I will break in no longer upon you than to assure you of the constant affection of your friends here. Your most loving Sister, Chatham 1. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. July 29, 1766. Dear Sir,—I have been detained a day longer in towTn than I proposed to stay, and have thereby an op- 1 See Lord Temple’s reply to this letter in Chatham Correspondence, ii. 467. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 281 portunity of sending you the latest reports, though I will not always answer for their being the most authentic; though the general arrangement is certain, and will take place to-morrow: the Duke of Richmond and Mr. Dowdeswell having resigned their Seals this morning. I believe it to be true that the Duke of Grafton and Mr. Townshend both declined their respective offices; the latter assigned for the reason of his reluctance, that he was already in an office of more honour, more profit, and more ease, which he did not choose to quit unless by His Majesty’s command: he has nominated Mr. D’Oyley to be Secretary to the Chancellor of the Exchequer: I heard this first from D’Oyley, whom I had called upon to mention the business you desired me, but this circumstance silenced me, and I conclude now there is an end of it, at least for the present. Lord John Cavendish will not stay at the Treasury ; but in hopes that he may alter his mind, I am told that the Commission is to be made out for only four Lords; if he persists, either Lord Villiers or Pryse Campbell will succeed him, but I believe the latter. Both the Secretaries continue : Mr. Dowdeswell is to be provided for. The story of the day is, that Sir John Cust is to be a Peer, and Mr. Dowdeswell, Speaker; but I am told from better authority that he will be Treasurer of the Navy, and Lord Howe one of the Joint Treasurers of Ireland. Both Lord Barrington and Mr. Stanley are talked of for the other, and both also for Secretary at War, but I suppose nothing is settled about either of them. It is said Lord Townshend is to be an Earl, which I do not believe, and that Lady Dalkeith is to be a Peeress, which is not improbable. I can learn no certainty concerning Lord Northumberland either way, 282 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, but I rather incline to think he is not to be Chamberlain, and this afternoon it is said that the Duke of Portland has been told he may continue. Lord Northington is President of the Council, and Lord Camden, Chancellor. The offer has been made to Hussey of being either Attorney - General or Chief Justice. The opinion is that he will accept the former, and then the Solicitor resign. I fancy he will prefer the easier situation. Mr. Yorke will, it is said, take nothing if anything should be offered to him. Mr. Pitt’s patent is making out for Earl of Chatham, &c. He has been to pay a visit to Lord Rockingham, and was let into the hall, but his Lordship sent out word that he was busy. It is reported that Lord Hertford is to continue Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, but the Duke of Richmond to go there to the next Sessions. The violent fluctuation of the India Stock to-day is mere Stock-jobbing. At New York a Bill has been brought into the Assembly for compensation to the sufferers. The Representatives for the upland Counties opposed it, saying that the Yorkers did the damage, and ought to bear the expense; on the first division, 11 for the Bill, against 10. On the second division, 13 to 10. If Hussey is Attorney-General, Judge Wilmot is to be Chief Justice. MR. CHARLES LLOYD TO MR. GRENVILLE. Salt Office1, Tuesday, July 29, 1766. Dear Sir,—The new arrangements are to take place 1 The Salt Office was in Buckingham Street. Charles Lloyd held no appointment there; but he seems to have resided with his mother, 1766 GRENVILLE PAPERS. 283 to-morrow. The Duke of Grafton, first Lord of the Treasury ; Charles Townshend, Chancellor of the Exchequer. Lord John Cavendish is to go out, and Lord Villiers to replace him. Lord Shelburne and Mr. Conway, Secretaries of State. Lord Egmont continues. Mr. Pitt to be Privy Seal, and immediately created Earl of Chatham, Viscount Pynsent, of Burton Pynsent, in the County of Somerset. This last is an assured fact, officially coming to my knowledge. Mr. J. Grenville is said to have Mr. Dowdeswell for his adjunct in the office of Paymaster. Mr. Yorke gone out of town, and out of humour. Lord Bute is said to take no part in all this. Lord Townshend is to be an Earl, and Lady Dalkeith a Baroness : this seems apocryphal. Lowndes and Cooper both continue Secretaries. D’Oyley is to be made Secretary to Charles Townshend as Chancellor. Wilmot to be Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. Lord Rockingham has bearded Mr. Pitt in letting him come in as far as his hall last Sunday, and then sending word by a footman that he could not see him. The explanation he gave of this at the Board to-day, is, that as a private man he would on every occasion that he could, resent Mr. Pitt’s contemptuous usage of him; as a public one, he should neither oppose nor support his measures. Pitt says, I hear, that he is resolved never to be angry again, but that if this had happened twenty years ago, Lord Rockingham should have heard of it, for he would have taken no such usage from the first Duke in the land. I expect, dear Sir, that you Mrs. Catherine Lloyd, who probably had apartments as House or Office keeper. 284 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, will believe this and the Peerage story; the rest, comme il vous plaira. At all events, pray believe me, &c., &c. C. Lloyd. MR. HANS STANLEY TO MR. GRENVILLE. Admiralty, July 29, 1766. Dear Sir,—After returning you a great many thanks for the favour of your last letter, the immediate purpose of my writing to you at present is, that you should know, not by reports, or by newspapers, but from myself directly, what relates to me. I left London a few days after Lord Temple, when my hopes were disappointed of seeing your family united, and placed where I have always humbly wished them in the State. I was scarce arrived at Paultons, when I received the King’s commands to return here, which were followed with an offer of my choice between the two vacant Embassies of Madrid and Petersburg. I need not say that nothing can be further from the plan of life I had proposed to myself, or from my wishes, than either of them; I can with great truth add, that I neither sought nor thought of any employment, but tired and disgusted with all the late scenes of domestic politics, and anxious about the future, I have jaccepted the Embassy to Petersburg \ as a temporary retreat from the present confusion; if any circumstance can render it acceptable to me, it is the reflection that I shall stand as free as a military officer 1 Mr. Stanley’s appointment did not take effect. See many letters on the subject in the Chatham Correspondence, vol. iii. Sir George Macartney was soon after made Ambassador Extraordinary and Pleni potentiary to the Court of Russia. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 285 in his command, and be merely a servant of the publick in the most extensive sense of the word: I hope I shall have the pleasure of seeing you again before I set out, and of receiving any commands you may have for me. I suppose you have heard from persons much better informed than myself, the various changes which are to take place, and I write this merely to assure you that my absence will never diminish the inviolable esteem and high respect with which I shall ever be, &c., &c. H. Stanley. COUNTESS TEMPLE TO MR. GLOVER. Stowe, July 29, 1766. I beg the favour to know, my good Mr. Glover, whether you are in the land of the living or the dead, that I may guess what you are about; if you are alive, I know your mind is wholly occupied with your French Mademoiselle, but yet I presume you might turn one thought towards a true English dame, who has a real friendship for you. If you are in the shades below, I know you are trotting after Leonidas like St. Anthony’s pig, ’till your poor feet are worn to skin and bone (if one may make use of that expression to a shade), for you are resolved never to lose sight of him. Good Lord! how I should laugh to see Melissa puffing and blowing to keep pace with you ; for since you have been favourite and first Minister to Apollo, she licks the dust under your feet, as Conway did to the great Commoner. I think you might write me a letter, for letters from the Dead are allowed, and you may be sure I have correspondence from Elysium, or I could not so exactly 286 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, know how you spend your time. You departed loaded with various Politicks. 1 hope you threw them all into the river Styx, for they must be useless in a place of bliss, or sent them to Pluto by the hands of Mercury ; they may be of use to the Judges in the trial of some people. My Lord insists upon it you are dead, or else you would never have been so long without seeing us, and desires you may know he loved and respected you to your last moment. If you should take a trip to this world, pray don’t come and open my bed-curtains in a winding sheet, with a pale visage, and a taper in your hand, but come in the evening in your brown cloaths, with a healthy complexion, and a smile, reading Leonidas: be sure not to speak in a hollow voice. These preliminaries being settled, I shall not be afraid of seeing you; nay, I can even say I shall be glad to see you, and my Lord promises not to make use of the broomstick and David’s Psalms, as he once did against the Devil: greatest and best of Manes, the rough Spartan himself not excepted, farewell. A. T. MR. WILLIAM GERARD HAMILTON TO EARL TEMPLE. Hampton Court, July 30, 1766. My dear Lord,—Though the Royal Party should leave you both in town and country \ my satisfaction in coming to Stowe, and my affection for the owner of it, will never I think be diminished by such sort of calamities ; and I am full as anxious to be of your party in your present choice of quiet and retirement, as I ever 1 The Princess Amelia had been Lord Temple’s guest at Stowe about this time. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 287 can be in any change that may possibly happen to you, of sentiment, or of situation. I have, I believe, already mentioned to your Lordship, that my friend Mr. Hutchinson, whose arrival from Ireland I expect every hour, was to pass a few days with me at Hampton Court. As soon as I am released from that engagement, I shall certainly have the honour of waiting upon you, of which I will take the liberty to give your Lordship notice; lest you should be absent from home, or so circumstanced as may possibly make my coming to you inconvenient. Lord Rockingham, who acquired so little reputation during his continuance in office, has, and I think deservedly, gained some approbation by his conduct in one instance since he left it. Mr. Pitt went to wait upon him to apologize for his Lordship’s being removed from the Treasury, and, it is said, to offer him the Lord Lieu-tenantcy of Ireland. Lord Rockingham came home while Mr. Pitt’s chair was at the door, upon which it was carried into the hall, but his Lordship went up stairs and sent word by his servant to Mr. Pitt, that he was extremely busy, and could not possibly see him. Mr. Yorke will certainly throw up his office upon Lord Camden’s having the Seals. De Grey, and not Norton, is to be Attorney-General. Who is to be Solicitor I can’t learn, but 1 am told it is to be neither Wedderburn nor Dunning. The prevailing opinion is that Wilmot will have the Common Pleas. Lord Bute declares as usual that he knows nothing of all these changes; and is at a loss to conjecture how they were brought about. His ignorance of all these matters is not more affected than Norton’s and Wedderburn’s was real. 288 GRENVILLE PAPERS. July, After your Lordship’s party at Stowe, and at Blenheim, it may appear idle to relate to you the language of the Duke of Bedford’s friends in London ; but they declare one and all, loudly and universally, that though your Lordship may possibly have behaved generously to them, it is a generosity which has undone them. That they are thrown into the most hopeless situation imaginable by your refusal: and that rather than you should have declined, they would, had they been consulted, have pressed your Lordship to accept without one of them. And they take care to hint in guarded, but at the same time in very intelligible, terms, that if Mr. Pitt would have consented to Mr. Grenville’s being of the Cabinet, it is probable they might have been totally overlooked. This is the language which is circulated. What attention ought to be paid to it, your Lordship is a much better judge than I am ; I thought it right to communicate it, and the more so as it comes from quarters which I have always considered as the best informed in regard to the real sentiments of that connection. I must add that nothing can be more observable, nor is more observed, than the attention paid by the Duke of Grafton to the Duke of Bedford’s friends who happen to be in town, and Fitz Roy, I know, said that his brother would be empowered to offer them such terms as he hoped they would accept. Inclosed I send your Lordship an account I have this moment received of what was done to-day at Court. I can’t help observing that Charles Townshend has not kissed hands. Your’s, my dear Lord, most faithfully and affectionately, — — — 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 289 THE COUNTESS OF CHATHAM TO EARL TEMPLE. North End, Saturday, August 2, 1766. Dear Brother,—I have to say in return to your last letter, that it was extremely unexpected, and that the mistake (since it is one,) which I proceeded upon was very natural both for my Lord and me to have made, for certainly our past conversations encouraged me to an easy belief, that private friendship and affection would remain, though disagreement upon public situations should unfortunately happen between Mr. Pitt and you. You know my faith, and I hold it fast, that the blessing of Heaven will still be given to upright and virtuous intentions. There remains for me only to desire you to receive my most sincere wishes for your health, honour, and happiness, remaining, under all circumstances, your most affectionate Sister, Hester Chatham. MR. WILLIAM GERARD HAMILTON TO EARL TEMPLE. Hampton Court, August 3, 1766. My dear Lord,—I have passed these last two days in town with Mr. Hutchinson, whom I have made exceedingly happy by informing him of the permission you gave me to bring him with me to Stowe, and, unless you forbid us, we shall probably have the honour of waiting upon you in less than a fortnight. Having no opportunities of receiving any information which is authentic, I can only relate to your Lordship what is reported, and what, extraordinary as it may seem, is universally believed. vol. ni. u 290 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, Lord Camden is said to have complained loudly of Mr. Pitt’s having accepted a peerage; and of his having adjusted everything without the least communication to any one friend. The bargains which his Lordship and Lord Northington are reported to have made with the Court are scarcely to be credited. Lord Camden, according to the notion which prevails, is immediately to have the reversion of a Tellership for his son, and a pension of 50001. per annum, if he should at any time be removed from the Great Seal. Lord Northington, in addition to his present employment, is to have a pension of 3000/. for life, and, in case of his being displaced, a further addition of 1500/. per annum. Dowdeswell is so much offended at his being removed for Mr. Townshend, that he has refused to accept of being Speaker, of being at the head of the Board of Trade, or of being Joint Paymaster, the last of which has been given to Lord North, but who is to have the remaining half I understand continues as yet unsettled. Mr. Yorke has changed his resolution of quitting his profession with the resignation of his office, and it is thought that Lord Rockingham and his friends, from the language which they hold, will connect themselves with the present Administration, though there has been a sequel to the history which I wrote to your Lordship of what had passed between him and Mr. Pitt. Lord Rockingham went up to him at Court, and said that though it was possible his refusing to see him might upon the first view of it appear to be improper, yet he was persuaded that if Mr. Pitt would be at the trouble of recollecting the many marks, not only of inattention, but of actual disregard, which had been shown to him during the course of the late transactions, his behaviour 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. f 291 could not but appear, even to Mr. Pitt himself, extremely justifiable. The Duke of Newcastle has refused a pension of 4000/. per annum, and Hussey declines being a Judge in the King’s Bench. There are those who still think that Norton, and not Wilmot, will be Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. In the letter I had last the honour of writing to your Lordship, I mentioned the ideas which prevailed here in regard to what were the real wishes, and to what would be the probable conduct, of the Duke of Bedford’s friends, under their present circumstances. I think I can now speak with authority better than what I then had, though I thought that extremely good: you may rely upon it as certain that the Duchess of Bedford does not scruple to declare her very sanguine wishes for a junction with Mr. Pitt; that her language is, that the present system must be a permanent one; that it ought to be so; and that Mr. Pitt, by his talents and address in the Closet, will establish his power by ingratiating himself with the King. Knowing the Duke of Bedford’s dislike to Lord Bute, her Grace adopts the opinion, which is very industriously circulated, that these last changes were brought about without the knowledge, and contrary to the wishes, of Lord Bute. If the Duke of Bedford was left entirely to himself, I should think it probable his good wishes for Mr. Grenville would prevail. His Grace had thoughts of making a visit to Wotton, but, if I am not mistaken, great pains are taking to prevent it. It is asserted by very high authority that your Lordship had peremptorily refused making a part of the new u 2 292 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August system upon your very first interview at Richmond '. The use made of this declaration is to show that your declining could not have been occasioned by any disagreement with Mr. Pitt, your resolution having been not only formed, but declared, before you ever saw him. Another particular is mentioned, upon which much stress is laid; that in a letter to Lord Gower your Lordship, after having informed him of the reasons why you did not accept, mentioned that the new system was to be formed entirely by Mr. Pitt; and added these words, “ that you hoped it would be permanent”2 This is construed as meant to imply, if not an actual disclaimer, at least a great indifference. {Imperfect.) MR. CHARLES LLOYD TO MR. GRENVILLE. Tuesday, August 5,1766. Dear Sir,—You may perhaps have seen a Pamphlet advertised, entitled “ An Enquiry into the Conduct of a Great Commoner,”3 together with an account of a late 1 The King’s letter to Mr. Pitt, written immediately after the interview, certainly conveys an impression that Lord Temple was by no means satisfied with the proposed arrangements, and the King probably anticipated the difficulties which subsequently occurred between Lord Temple and Mr. Pitt. Lord Temple is said to have told Lord Northington that “ his Lordship need not have sent for him from the country, for there was no real wish or intention to have him in the Administration.” 2 This passage does not occur in the letter written by Lord Temple to Lord Grower when he desired to be excused for having named him to Mr. Pitt, for Secretary of State. See ante, page 272. 3 This “ scurrilous and scandalous pamphlet,” as Lord Chesterfield calls it, was compiled by Humphrey Cotes and Almon, but the prin- 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 293 Conference. Mr. Roberts told me yesterday that Almon, the publisher (who says that he had authority for the particulars of what he intended to publish), had received orders not to publish it. I hear to-day that notwithstanding this he resolved to publish to-morrow. I will send it to you when published. Your paper of to-day will contain, copied from yesterday’s Gazetteer, a letter supposed to be written by Sir Robert Walpole to the late King. It is commended1. Lord Northington is to have 50001. per annum as President of the Council, and whenever he quits it, 40004 per annum pension during his life, and a reversion of Clerk of the Hanaper for two lives. cipal materials, particularly the private conversations which it describes, were unquestionably derived from Lord Temple, and that was the general opinion at the time of publication. Walpole, alluding to Lord Chatham’s unpopularity, says, “ The great engine of this dissatisfaction was Lord Temple, who was so shameless as to publish the history of their breach, in which he betrayed every private passage that Mr. Pitt had dropped in their negotiation and quarrel, which could tend to inflame the public or private persons against him. This malignant man worked in the mines of successive factions for near thirty years together. To relate them is writing his life.” A refutation of this pamphlet, written as Lord Chesterfield adds, “ by some friend of Mr. Pitt, gives an account of his whole political life, and at the latter end there is an article that expresses such supreme contempt of Lord Temple, and in so pretty a manner, that I suspect it to be Mr. Pitt’s own. I here transcribe the article : ‘ But this I will be bold to say, that had he (Lord Temple) not fastened himself into Mr. Pitt’s train, and acquired thereby such an interest in that great man, he might have crept out of life with as little notice as he crept in; and gone off with no other degree of credit, than that of adding a single unit to the bills of mortality.’” I cannot, however, agree with Lord Chesterfield in ascribing this passage to Mr. Pitt; it is very inconsistent with his character that he should condescend to write in this manner of himself, and it is as little likely that he should so express himself of Lord Temple, the loss of whose affection and friendship he constantly and bitterly deplored. 1 Sir Robert Walpole’s advice to George II. to make Pulteney a Peer, is applied by the writer to the case of George III. and Pitt. 294 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, Lord Camden lias got a reversion of a Tellership for his son, and a grant of 15004 per annum on the Irish Establishment, if he quits the Seals before the Teller’s office is vacant. The new Treasury Board sat for the first time yesterday. There is but one opinion about Mr. Pitt’s Peerage. I am just going to Chiswick to dine with Lord Townshend, who I hear is sorry for the acceptance of his brother \ Mr. Dowdeswell has refused the Joint Paymastership, and the First Commissionership of Trade, chiefly owing, I understand, to his great uncertainty as to his re-election. I am, &c., &c. Charles Lloyd. THE EARL OF HILLSBOROUGH TO MR. GRENVILLE. Hanover Square, August 6, 1706. Dear Sir,—When I had the pleasure of writing to you on Monday night, I had not the most distant idea of what has since happened. It was very well known that had I not been dismissed, I could not have continued at the Board of Trade upon the footing I held it. I must have resigned unless some alteration was made, and I knew none was intended, and therefore I gave it up in my mind, even if I could have reconciled it with my going abroad. Many other circumstances conspired to prevent my regretting the loss of my employment, which I need not trouble you with. On Tuesday last I received a very gracious message, accompanied by a wish that I would return to the Board, 1 Charles Townshend was now Chancellor of the Exchequer in place of Mr Dowdeswell. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 295 and ordering me to return my answer the next day in the Closet. This message was delivered to me in the most obliging manner by the present Minister. I turned it in my mind; not whether I should come to the Hoard as it was constituted while you was □Minister, for I knew' I could not carry on the business in that manner; nor whether I should propose, what is certainly most desirable for the public, that it should be made an independent department upon an extensive plan, for I know’ the disposition of some.too well, to suppose that would be complied with, by parting with any powers or patronage ; but whether I could not contract the plan so as that I might do the business in an easy manner to myself, and free from that very unpleasant, and in some measure unbecoming, attendance upon others, which is the consequence of unexplained connections of departments in business, and always very disagreeable to that which is considered as in the inferior situation. I wished at the same time to accept, because I do, and shall always, wish to show a disposition to support Government, being resolved, as you say, to judge by actions, and not by words ; and whatever my wishes may be with regard to particular persons whom I love, not to support or oppose men, but measures. After therefore considering the office in this light, I resolved to accept, provided the Board should be altered from a Board of Representation to a Board of Report upon Reference only; that the order to the Governors in America to correspond with the Board of Trade only, should be rescinded; and that every executive business that has by degrees crept into the Board should revert to the proper offices, particularly all Treasury business; 296 GRENVILLE PAPERS, August, and that I should not be of the Cabinet (which was also offered to me). In this manner, which has been agreed to, I have accepted the office ; my own business will go on with ease and satisfaction to myself; the load of business that this will throw elsewhere, will, I hope, meet with strength of abilities to support it, and application to dispatch it. I give no opinion about it; it is not my affair. I thought it right to give you an account of this transaction, as you are so kind to me as to interest yourself in what regards me in the most friendly and obliging manner. I beg your pardon for writing so long a letter about myself; I think you will discern through it, that I have wishes, which possibly time and mutual calm reflection may bring to pass ; it would make me very happy to be instrumental. I am, with sincere and affectionate attachment, &c., &c. Hillsborough. MR. GRENVILLE TO SIR JOHN GLYNNEb Wotton, August 7, 1766. Dear Sir,—There is no occasion for you to make the least apology for your letter which I received last night; on the contrary, if upon this or any other subject I can give you any information or do anything which may be of use to you it will give me a very sincere pleasure. As to the question which you ask of me whether Dr. Blackstone is right in his “Stemmata Chicheleana,” 1 Of Hawarden Castle, County Flint. He was the sixth Baronet. He married Honora, daughter of Henry Conway, and grand-daughter of Sir John Conway, of Bodryddan, who was a grandson of Sir Kenelm Digby and Venetia Stanley, and through them descended in direct line from the Stanleys and the Percys. Sir John Glynne died in 1777. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 297 No. 135, when lie makes Sir Peter Temple marry Eleanor Tyrrel, as this does not agree with Willis’s account of Buckinghamshire, and therefore whether Peter Temple, the father of John, might not be a knight and married to Eleanor Tyrrel, I apprehend that it is very easy to give you a satisfactory answer, though I have only one of the books which you mention, viz. “Willis’s Account of Buckinghamshire.” In page 276 of this book you will see that the eldest son of Sir Thomas Temple of Stowe was Sir Peter Temple of Stowe, who was grandfather to Lord Cobham, and to my mother; you will likewise see in the same page of the same book that the second son of Sir Thomas Temple of Stowe was Sir Thomas Temple of Stanton Barry. This Sir Peter Temple of Stanton Barry married Eleanor Tyrrel, and by her was father to Eleanor Temple, who intermarried with my grandfather Richard Grenville of Wotton, and was mother to my father and to Lady Conway, and another daughter who died young. By this account it appears there were two Sir Peter Temples, the one of Stowe, who was my mother’s grandfather, the other of Stanton Barry, who intermarried with Eleanor Tyrrel, and was my grandmother’s father. This is a full answer to the question which you ask. I have not the “ Stemmata Chicheleana,” but I suppose that book states it truly. If you have any further doubt, you may consult the new edition of the “ Peerage of Great Britain,” by Mr. Edmonstone, in which you will find the pedigree, I believe, very exactly stated under the article of Earl Temple, but I have not the book here, having left it in town. This I hope will be sufficient to clear up any difficulty on this head, and that your son will succeed in his application for a Fellowship of All Souls. 298 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, I do not write anything to you about the late extraordinary political transactions, the particulars of which you must have seen and read long ago: I will only say that I have had nothing to do with them in any shape, having expressly declined to have my name mentioned, and I rejoice extremely that Lord Temple has refused to engage upon a plan which was neither consistent with his honour nor safety, and of which there is no example ; the express claim being to guide everything in a sinecure office and to be responsible for nothing. I cannot think that such a proposition can be attended with that good-will, credit, and permanency which the state of the kingdom so much requires, as private intrigue and the public distress and indignation will in all likelihood join to overturn it. I am very sorry to hear so bad an account of Mrs. Conway’s health, which I fear is in a very dangerous situation. I shall at all times be glad of any opportunity to express the esteem and regard with which I am, &c., &c, George Grenville. MR. GRENVILLE TO MR. CHARLES LLOYD. Wotton, August 8, 1766. Dear Lloyd,—The several packets containing the pamphlet published by Mr. Almon 1, together with your letter, came safe last night. There are certainly some mistakes in it, but I shall make no comments upon the general purpose of it, nor take any notice of the mistakes in it, except of one pretty essential one which relates personally to myself. 1 “ An Enquiry into the Conduct of a late Right Honourable Commoner.” 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 299 It is said, page 41st, that notwithstanding my being entirely “ out of place, and excluded from all connection with the intended system, I would nevertheless support the Measures of their Administration” I desired Lord Temple not to clog or embarrass this transaction in any shape by mentioning me, but that if he could find it consistent with his honour and safety to engage in it, I would nevertheless give him all the assistance and support in my power, as far as I could consistently with my friends, and former opinions, and as far as he was concerned in it, but desired it might not be understood to go any further. I never engaged myself in any shape, either in or out of office, to support Mr. Pitt's Measures or Administration. This I desire you will tell everybody whom you see, and take some means to let Mr. Almon know it, and of having it contradicted as fully and effectually as you can. I would have assisted and supported my brother. Lord Temple, if he had taken the Treasury1, as cordially and affectionately as I could, but I have so long and so highly disapproved Mr. Pitt’s public conduct, his principles and his measures, that I never could make any such general declaration of support to him, though at the same time if he should change his sentiments, as he has so frequently done, and make any proposal which was really for the public service, I would not do as he has done by me, and oppose it from personal rancour and jealousy. I am sorry to see Lord North in half an office, joined with that able statesman, Mr. George Cooke. I desire you will return my sincerest thanks to Lord Townshend for the cordial manner in which you tell me 1 Mr. Grenville’s “ support ” is only mentioned upon that supposition. 300 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, he has expressed his good will, and his good opinion of me I have writ to nobody about the late transaction, who had not writ first to me, and have therefore omitted many of my most intimate friends, as you know; but if I had known in any way that Lord Townshend would have liked it, I certainly should have writ to him upon this occasion, which you may tell him from me, with my best compliments, whenever you see him. I am, &c., &c. George Grenville. THE EARL OF SUFFOLK TO MR. GRENVILLE. August 8, 1766. Dear Sir,—Your account of the late extraordinary transactions squared much with what 1 had heard from others : indeed with respect to yourself, it has been ingeniously reported that Lord Temple’s conferences with Mr. Pitt broke off upon your account; that such stipulations were made in vour favour as the latter could bv no means acquiesce in. Conjecture has variously explained what they were, and too absurdly for me to say how ; but this has been represented to me with an air of truth and importance, and by people who ought to know better. Upon the whole it appears to me that Lord Temple has been most contemptuously treated, that the propositions made to him were disgraceful, such as his situation in every respect could only reject and disdain, and that they were made to him only with a view to obtain his refusal. I am sorry to draw so hostile a conclusion to my favourite ideas bunion, comprehension, and moderation. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 301 I earnestly wished it. I expected to have seen it ; but without it I do not expect to see that stability in Government which never people stood more in need of than we do. I am, &c. Suffolk. MR. JENKINSON TO MR. GRENVILLE. Paris, August 10, 1766. My dear Sir,—I am obliged to you for the account you have sent me of your conduct in the late transactions. I entirely approve of it. I think it honourable, disinterested, and public spirited, and what must do you good witlfall men whose opinions are worth regarding. As to myself, I first delayed my journey into the south, that I might have the earlier intelligence of what was transacting at London. This delay, and the friendship of Lord Holdernesse, has procured me the acquaintance of the people of the first fashion here, and I have found this acquaintance so agreeable, that I shall continue here or at Compiegne, where the Court is at present, some time longer. I have been presented at Court and to the Prime Minister of this country, Monsieur de Choiseul. From the conversation I had with him, which was very short, I can form no judgment of his talents ; his aspect is very much against him. I have presented your compliments to all the Maison d’Harcourt. They all desire me to return their compliments to you, and particularly Monsieur and Madame de Guerchy. They often inquire after you and Mrs. Grenville, and the last desired me to inform Mrs. Grenville that she has sent the needles for working of tapestry, which Lady Egremont had desired her to buy. 302 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, As I have found much amusement in this place, I think I have drawn, also, some information from it. I see more reasons every day to apprehend that France will extricate herself sooner from the difficulties which the war has brought upon her than we shall. I am sorry that this question, which goes so far to decide the whole of modern politics, should be so much against us. As to Monsieur de Nivernois, though we have frequently interchanged visits, yet I am not likely to see him except by chance. His establishment is so small that he lives in the summer with his wife’s mother, where he can invite very few people. You would be surprised to see the number of English that come to this town. From what the people of this country see and know of their expenses, they must be sensible that they are at least their rivals. I am afraid, as Englishmen, we ought to lament we give this proof of it. I am, &c., &c. C. Jenkinson. MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. Wotton, August 20, 1766. The intelligence which you sent me, my dear brother, by my nephew, Jemmy, was well founded, as you will see by the account I am going to give you. I went to Woburn on Saturday last, the day that Lady Egremont left us, and found the Duke of Bedford, who received me with great friendship and openness, and said that if he had not seen me, he proposed to come to Wotton in the course of this week. He told me that he had heard nothing since he saw you, except that Lord Hertford, whom he had met in town, had assured him 1766. GRENVILLE TAPERS. 303 of his own wishes, and of the wishes of those with whom he was connected, to see the Duke of Bedford and his friends in Government; but this was in general only, and went no further. On Saturday evening Lord Tavistock, who brought Lady Tavistock into the country that day, after her lying-in, informed the Duke of Bedford that the Duke of Grafton had sent to him on the Thursday preceding, desiring to see him the next day; that when they met, the Duke of Grafton began by making excuses for troubling him on a subject which possibly he might not like to intermeddle in, but that having something to say to the Duke of Bedford, he rather chose to do it by Lord Tavistock than to employ any underlings. He then expressed himself in very high terms concerning the Duke of Bedford, and dwelt upon it a great while, adding that though they had differed in Parliament, yet he hoped he had never been wanting in personal regard to him. That the Administration wished to see the Duke of Bedford and his friends in Government, and that, therefore, he desired to know how the Duke of Bedford stood affected towards the present Administration. That by Lord Egmont’s resignation1 there was a vacancy in a great office, which they should be glad to see supplied by Lord Gower, through the Duke of Bedford’s mediation and approbation, but that it must be understood that this proposal came only from them, and that if it was accepted, they would propose it to the King. On Lord Tavistock wishing to know whether anything further was intended besides this offer to Lord Gower, the Duke of Grafton said that no further offer He had recently been First Lord of the Admiralty. 304 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, was meant at present; that he knew Lord Chatham’s idea was a great comprehensive and conciliating plan, but that he did not mean at present to turn out any of those who would act with the Administration. That he, the Duke of Grafton, was so desirous to see an union established which might bring together as much strength and ability as might be ; that notwithstanding his attachment to Lord Chatham, he would not have come in if he had thought that Lord Chatham did not intend it. In answer to this, the Duke of Bedford wrote to the Duke of Grafton and to Lord Gower on Sunday, and showed me the letters to both of them \ He told the Duke of Grafton that his son had informed him what passed; that he was extremely sensible to the many obliging expressions which the Duke of Grafton had used concerning him; that he had wished to see the Duke of Grafton in office, because he thought him a friend to his country; that he had a great regard for him, and some others in the Administration, but that as to the question which was asked of him, he must freely declare that he and his friends having opposed the totality of the measures proposed by the last and supported by the present Administration, he must entirely decline taking any part by his mediation in this business, but left it to Lord Gower, upon any application made to him, to do as he should think best. The Duke of Bedford’s letter to Lord Gower contained an exact narrative of what I have writ to you, and a copy of his letter to the Duke of Grafton, telling him that by this means he had quite washed his hands of it, and that having done so, Lord Gower would act See Bedford Correspondence t vol. iii. pp. 342-3. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 305 in it, if he heard anything more, as his own judgment should direct him. The Duke of Bedford enjoined me secrecy, as Lord Tavistock was very unwilling that what passed in private conversation with him should be publicly discussed, but upon my desiring to communicate this to you, the Duke of Bedford very readily agreed to it, but under the sea] of secrecy, which, as this is a matter of a delicate nature, is indispensably necessary to be observed. The evident purpose of all this is, to break and divide us if possible, for which end your own words are now to be adopted, and a proposition made through another channel to those whom, when proposed by you, it was thought necessary absolutely to reject \ If I can trust my accounts from London, the indisposition even amongst those in office augments, as well as the public clamour both there and in the country. Adieu, my dear Brother, &c., &c. George Grenville. EARL TEMPLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. August 21,1766, Thursday morning. My dear Brother,—L learn that things go very lamely on at St. James’s, that the great and little Earl 2 are already upon ill terms, the great Earl demanding from the little one the immediate execution of certain 1 Lord Temple, in his last interview with Mr. Pitt, on Wednesday the 16th of July, had proposed Lord Gower for Secretary of State, as a means of conciliating the Bedford connection, and restoring unanimity by a combination of parties. Mr. Pitt, however, at that time objected to the appointment of Lord Gower to any office. 2 The Earls of Bute and Chatham. VOL. III. X 306 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, stipulations, which diminutive wishes to postpone. He affects to he very indifferent upon the subject of the city of London, says he has held the cap to them long enough, that for the future he shall devote himself to the King’s service entirely, and execute that so long as His Majesty shall approve of his counsels and measures ; if not, he shall withdraw from all, and retire to Burton Pynsent. Q. How Lord Gower’s judgment will direct him1; the Duke of Bedford once refused to come into office himself, put Lord G. in, and in a little time accepted likewise himself. I know authentically that my conduct in refusing is not applauded by that quarter, and that the offer has been invited, as far as certain expressions of longings for office do invite, and I believe much further too; however, we shall now see, and the event is very indifferent to me2. The testimony of adopting my plan, after refusing to me the execution of it, is, I think, advantageous to me; and as to the rest, I see nothing within the possibility of things which can give me real satisfaction on behalf of the public. Yours affectionately, Temple. EARL TEMPLE TO MR. HUMPHREY COTES. Stowe, August 21, 1766. I am very miserable, my dear Cotes, at what I this moment read in the papers with your name affixed to it. 1 Lord Gower declined the offer of the Admiralty, according to Horace Walpole, because “he could not stand alone, in so responsible a place, and was connected with none of the present Ministry.” 2 Lord Temple never seems to have had entire confidence in the good faith of the Bedford party. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 307 I am sensible that you have been hurried into this step by an honest indignation and warm zeal for my honour, but were I to see you, I am sure I could convince you of the numberless mischiefs attending it. The Enquiry itself which you allude to contains many mistakes, and particularly on the subject of pensions; it was a lucrative office and not a pension that was proposed for Lord Lyttelton, with the Cabinet Council annexed: and as to the assertion which angers you, forgive me if I hold it not worthy of notice ; I scorn to think it possible, any man who knows me can be misled by such an invention, which I am certain Lord Chatham would not countenance a moment1. There now remains only for me to beg of you, on every account, not to proceed further in anything of this sort; all your friends and mine will join, I dare say, in the same request. Let me also add, that I am with much concern, though very sincerely, your faithful and obedient Temple. MR. WILLIAM GERARD HAMILTON TO EARL TEMPLE. London, Monday, (August 25, 1766.) My dear Lord,—The intelligence which I sent you of Lord Gower’s having refused to accept of the Admiralty, is undoubtedly true : and it is as true that some 1 The author of a pamphlet entitled Seasonable Reflections, &c., commenting upon the Enquiry into the Conduct of a late Right Honourable Commoner, and in allusion to Lord Temple, has the following passage :—“ But in all this wonderful Enquiry we meet not with one word of his Lordship’s (Lord Temple) afterwards offering to accept a place in the new Ministry, and of his being told he was then too late in his application.” Humphrey Cotes, in a letter to the printer of the Public Advertiser, on the 23rd of August, designates the above as “a wicked, infamous, and wilful lie.” x 2 308 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, negotiation is still going on between Lord Chatham and the Duke of Bedford’s friends. The persons employed are the Duke of Grafton and Lord Camden, who declare everywhere their wish that Lord Gower may be placed in any situation which may be most agreeable to him. I have reason to think that Lord Chatham has proposed to make Lord Tavistock Master of the Horse, which it is, however, reported the Duke of Rutland is very much disinclined to resign. An express was sent late last night to overtake Lord Granby upon his road to Scarborough, for which place he set out only a few days since. This message is a subject of much speculation. The Duke of Grafton has declared that he is ready to resign his pretensions to the next vacant Garter to the Duke of Marlborough, and I know that Colonel Fitz-Roy was authorized to say, that if other arrangements could by any means be adjusted, Lord Weymouth might again be made Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. The offer of the Admiralty for Lord Gower, with a liberty of nominating to the two vacant seats at that Board, was made by the Duke of Grafton to Lord Tavistock, and was reported by him to the Duke of Bedford, who refused giving any opinion upon the proposal, but desired that the whole of it might be submitted to Lord Gower. I am persuaded that the Duke of Bedford’s friends will not accept without at least a communication of their design to Mr. Grenville. I think I can discover distinctly that they have strong apprehensions lest your Lordship should use your influence with Mr. Grenville to oppose their taking any employments under Lord 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 309 Chatham : but it is the universal opinion that their present difficulty is not occasioned by the nature of their engagements, but by some dispute about the advantageousness of the terms. Lord Ligonier has got the pension for his nephew increased from 10004 to 15004 per annum, and a promise of the second regiment that becomes vacant; the first being engaged to Colonel Clinton. Lord Bute, who affects at least to be much dissatisfied with everything which is going forward, had a meeting with Lord Ligonier at Lord Townshend’s, where he declared that he had not been in the least instrumental in the disgrace which his Lordship had suffered by the promotion of Lord Granby, and added that upon his honour, he had not seen the King, even once, during the last twelvemonth. Shelley is to have Lord Edgecumbe’s white staff, and Admiral Keppel declares he has not so much as a thought of resigning. I am persuaded there must have been some mistake in your accounts relative to Sir Richard Lyttelton. Shelburne tried all his tricks to prevail on Lord Lyttelton to pay a visit to Lord Chatham, and would, I am disposed to believe, have succeeded, had it not been for the interposition of Sir Richard. I was charged with a commission from him which I forgot to execute when I was at Stowe. It was to beg that you would give directions for the sending a buck to him at Chelsea. I shall probably have the happiness of drinking your Lordship’s health with him, over a part of it. There is one piece of intelligence more, to which, much as I wish it, I can give but little credit: it came, I believe, from Lord Hertford: “ that some arrange- 310 GRENVILLE PAPERS. August, ment was under consideration which might be agreeable to Mr. Grenville.” Mr. Conway is much hurt at Lord Granby’s promotion, and particularly as everything relative to it was settled without his knowledge. Yours, my dear Lord, &c., &c. —------— P. S. Your Lordship may now depend upon it that Sir Charles Saunders is to be First Lord of the Admiraltv. Lord Chatham was seized last night with a fit of the gout, and is confined to his bed. MR. CHARLES LLOYD TO MR. GRENVILLE. York Buildings, Friday, August 29, 1766. Dear Sir,—I delivered to Mr. Morin this morning your letter to General Conway, and the books having been previously packed up and sealed with your seal, were fetched away to the office \ Lord Palmerston and Sir George Younge are named Puisne Lords of the Admiralty. Mr. Pitt so ill at Hampstead that he will not see anybody. Many people insist upon it that Lord Gower has declared his willingness to accept. They go further, and assert that his Lordship would upon no account have joined in Lord Temple’s plan, but that he has a high respect and veneration for Lord Chatham. This may 1 Mr. Grenville returned to the Secretary of State’s Office some books of Prussian Correspondence, and in a letter to General Conway on the subject, he says :—“I have always been desirous that the correspondence with the Ministers at the different Courts should be preserved entire, and therefore when I quitted the office I left in it every public paper which had passed during the time that I held the seals, though I knew it had been the practice and had even been insisted on as a right by some of my predecessors to do otherwise.” 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 311 be a story worthy of the populace, but I assure you it is vouched by people in high office, and repeated by men of distinction. I am told there is a great fracas at the Post Office about a letter from the Duke of Bedford to the Duke of Grafton having been opened. Mr. Saxby is named as the person doing it, and is under strict examination, I hear, to name who set him on to do itl. 1 On the following Tuesday Charles Lloyd writes to Mr. Grenville, “ Saxby is turned out of an office of 12002. a year for opening the Duke of Bedford’s letter, it is said, to the Duke of Grafton.”—And again, “ The Duke of Grafton has declared that if ever Saxby is put into any office, he will move the House of Lords to address the King to remove him.” The system of opening letters at the Post Office was the subject of very frequent remark in the correspondence of this period; indeed it was so universally known or suspected, that few persons were so indiscreet as to send anything by that medium which they would object to have read in the ^Secret Office.'" Mr. Anthony Todd, the Secretary to the General Post Office, in a “ Private Memorial," to Mr. Grenville, dated August, 1763, communicates the following statement of the Secret Service Money applied to the payment of the several allowances on the “ Secret List,” for one year to the 5th of April, 1763:— The Bishop of Bath and Wells .... £500 Thomas Ramsden . . 500 Edward Willes . . 500 Thomas Willes , . 300 James Wallace . . 400 James Rivers . . 200 Peter Morin . . . 250 Cuchet Juvencel . . 150 John Ernest Bode, jun., £400; extra allowance, £100 . . . .500 The same person for Seals, &c. .... 75 Carried forward £3375 Brought forward £3375 Peter Hemet . . . 300 Stephen Dupuy . . 300 John French . . . 300 John Ernest Bode, jun. . 300 William Augustus Bode , 200 John Ulrick Seishop . 100 John Calcott ... 60 James Holcome . . 40 James Sanders . . 60 Anthony Todd . . 750 The same person for distributing these allowances 25 £5810 Peter Hemet, whose name stands for £300, and who had been super- 312 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, The great Earl says this Administration, though not what he wishes it, is still better than the last, and that he shall support the King’s measures. You may depend upon it, the present idea is that the Parliament should meet in November. Saturday, August 30. The East India Directors, it is said, have been twice this week before the Privy Council, where notice was given them that a Parliamentary inquiry would be made next session into their management. This has been so well understood that the stock of that Company has fallen from 230 to 210. Mr. Pitt (Lord Chatham), T hear, complains that Lord Temple is the encourager of all the abuse against him. I am, &c., &c. C. Lloyd. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. September 5, 1766. Dear Sir,—I fear I shall have raised your expectations of the contents of this letter by the conveyance I have chosen for it; but though my intelligence is not very decisive, yet as 1 could not write upon it freely in any other way, and I can give you, I believe, the real situation of a party, with some particulars which you did not know, I imagined you would think it worth while to send a servant to Aylesbury for it. annuated for above twenty years, being dead, Mr. Todd requests permission to increase the salary of his nephew, John Madison, who had been sent to St. Petersburgh to learn the Russian language in order to copy and translate, as well as to attempt that cypher. He also desires to increase the allowance of Mr. Bode, “for engraving the many seals ue are obliged to make use of” 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 313 The manner of Mr. Mackenzie’s appointment clears, in a great measure, the speculations it has given rise to. He received in Scotland a letter, merely official, from General Conway, acquainting him that His Majesty had appointed him to the office of Privy Seal. When he waited on the King, His Majesty spoke of it as his own act, in which the Ministers had concurred. He met Lord Chatham at Court, who talked to him of the roads and the weather, without mentioning the subject. He has not seen any of the Ministers, but has heard that the Duke of Grafton is inclined to see him. The office is not given him for life, nor has there been any intimation of annexing any power to it. Hitherto, therefore, the Ministers seem to decline the reputation of having any share in the nomination. He himself expresses a satisfaction in being possessed of the office, and defends his accepting it as not being a means of incumbering his friends, nor tending to connect them with the Ministers; but I do not find any confirmation of his using so strong an expression as the calling Lord Chatham the Dictator. Lord Bute faintly defends Mr. Mackenzie’s acceptance, on the ground of its being impossible for him to refuse it from the King, but is highly irritated at the manner in which the Ministers conduct themselves with respect to it. As to Lord Bute’s general language, I hear that he said to Lord Townshend that he wished to have seen a more comprehensive plan ; but that, however, this Administration is better than the last, and that he shall support the King’s measures. But I hear from another quarter, which I take to be more accurate, that the language is, “ Mr. Pitt had it in his power to have formed a more comprehensive plan. I am sorry he has missed it, and I wish that his measures may 314 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, be such as I can support, because I think this Administration better than perpetual changes.” Upon stating to him that though such reasons might satisfy his friends in office, yet those out of office and neglected would think it unbecoming them to support an Administration that defied them; he acknowledged that they could not; and upon his whole conversation, as I have heard it, he seems to me to have taken no resolution; that he means to hold a general language, and to be equally far from being pleased with the present arrangement, or inclined to be active in opposing it. Some of his friends will, however, I am persuaded, be in opposition, and try to prevail on him to follow them. He is hurt, again, at a pamphlet, The Enquiry, which is, you know, ascribed to Lord Temple, and contains the same sentiments with respect to him as The Narrative. I said as to that, that I had heard Lord Temple speak of that pamphlet as containing many mistakes ; that his Lordship disavowed all connection with any author of any pamphlet on the present occasion ; but that he professed to make no secret of the late transactions, told it to right and left, and supposed that some zealous person1 had picked up facts, and published them without his knowledge. You will receive a visit from Mr. Wedderburn in a few days, and you will find his sentiments and his conduct exactly the same as they have been. You may be as open to him as to anybody, and he loves openness. Lord Rockingham holds a language almost of opposition, and complains much of the usage he has received; 1 This “ zealous person ” was no doubt Humphrey Cotes, who was thus enabled to glean all the information necessary for the compilation of the pamphlet. It is signed N. C. M. S. C., a combination of letters of which I have never heard any explanation. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 315 but still I imagine he will in general support, unless a fair opportunity offered to oppose particular measures. The negotiation with some of the Duke of Bedford’s party is said to be still going on; but I hear no particulars, and doubt whether they are of consequence. There is some bustle among the Ministers, expresses having been sent yesterday to bring the President of the Council and the Chancellor of the Exchequer to town; but I have seen nobody to-day to tell me more. The abuse of Lord Chatham is to the full as virulent as ever. Lord Northington comes in for a share. Lord Shelburne, it is said, is disgusted. It is now generally known that Lord North repents of accepting. The Considerations, &C.1, are not yet published, owing to an absurdity of the printer, but I suppose that will soon be over. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. September 5, 1766. Dear Sir,—1 have enclosed in two covers which accompany this, some newspapers which you do not take in, and in which Mrs. Grenville may find two or three pieces not unworthy of places in her collection2. I have endeavoured in vain to get the Ledger of yesterday, which contains a very saucy paper from America with respect to the letter from the Committee of Merchants. There is another still stronger in the Virginia 1 Mr. Whately’s pamphlet before-mentioned. 2 Mrs. Grenville had a small book in which she kept a collection of cuttings from the newspapers, chiefly on political subjects, and among them are some of the early letters of the author of Junius, before he adopted that more celebrated signature. 316 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, Courant just come over, but not yet published here; well written as I am informed, and supposed to be the work of Delany, telling the Americans that they have more reason to grieve than to rejoice at the repeal of the Stamp Act, as the British Parliament came into the measure on commercial considerations only, and still refuse to acknowledge the rights of the Colonies. ■ New York has granted the compensation in the shape of a grant of, I think, 50001. to the Crown for charitable purposes. The Assembly at Boston have broke up without coming to any resolution relating to it, except appointing a committee to inquire for the authors of the last disturbances. The Secretary of State’s letter was read to the Assembly at Rhode Island, but nothing done upon it. The affairs of the East India Company are now very much the subject of conversation, and the designs of Government with respect to them the subject of many speculations; for my own part, I do not see that much at this juncture can be, and I doubt whether anything will be, done concerning them. The ideas of private property and public faith will prevent any material alterations in the situation of the Company. I have endeavoured to trace the author of that paper which you thought so well done, but can only find that it is not any of the persons we guessed. It is said that Lord Bristol’s brother \ who goes with him as chaplain, is to have an English bishopric: Lord Bristol is to hold the Lieutenantcy for five years, and to reside constantly. 1 Frederick, third son of John Lord Hervey; he was Bishop of Derry when he succeeded his brother Augustus as fourth Earl of Bristol. He died in 1808. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 317 LORD CLIVE TO MR. GRENVILLE. Calcutta, September 8, 1766. Dear Sir,—I have impatiently waited to receive a few lines from you, and to hear from your mouth that you are well; at last I have attained that satisfaction by the hands of Mr. Crotty. You could not do me a greater pleasure than putting my gratitude to the test by recommending to me this young gentleman. I gave him a commission instantly in preference to every gentleman that came out this year; he is gone up the country to join the army, and carries with him a letter to Colonel Sir Robert Barker, who I am persuaded will let slip no opportunity of serving him, and you may be assured my attention shall be constantly fixed upon his welfare, whether I am in India or in England. I have heard with some surprise that this young man might have come out in the civil, but that he preferred a military station; although the military service in India is certainly the best in the world, it is not to be compared to the civil service. Before my departure, I will sound his inclinations on that subject, and on my arrival in England, it will be no difficult task to get him appointed to a civil station. The Revolution which has happened was to me unexpected, unaccountable, and surprising. I cannot conceive how any one man can dare, through the influence he has with his Prince, thus to endanger, if not to sacrifice, the interests of so great a nation. As an individual not slightly concerned, I can’t help feeling for the deplorable situation of my country: may the Almighty Disposer of kings and kingdoms save this from impending ruin, and inspire our great men 318 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, with sentiments of moderation and zeal for the public good, in preference to private pique and resentment; and may I, Sir, be so happy as to hear that you are restored to that share of power and confidence with your Prince, which you was so universally allowed to deserve, at the time I left England. Last year I troubled you with a long detail of India affairs: the Company’s prospects are great, and their condition permanent and stable, but such a work could not be brought about without violent convulsions. A general mutiny among the officers, attended with circumstances shocking and dishonourable to our nation, had nearly deprived us of all our possessions; however this great evil has been productive of good; subordination and discipline are restored; moderation and frugality have taken place of insolence and extravagance ‘. A general Court-Martial of Field Officers is now sitting for the trial of the principal offenders, and you will be much surprised that Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Robert Fletcher is accused of being the author and principal promoter of the late mutiny, in which no less than 173 officers resigned their commissions. The general Court-Martial has already sat six weeks, and will probably sit six weeks longer before the whole be concluded. The only officer as yet on whom sentence has been pronounced is Lieutenant Virtue, who was tried for desertion and disobedience of orders, but for want of sufficient proof that he received his pay, although it was drawn for in the usual manner, he has 1 Some account of this mutiny of officers will be found in Malcolm’s Life of Lord Clive, the details of which are derived from a narrative written by the late Sir Henry Strachey who was Lord Clive’s private secretary, and inserted in the Report of a Committee of the House of Commons on the subject. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 319 only been sentenced to be broke with infamy, by having his sword and spontoon broke over his head, and his sash cut in pieces in presence of the whole army. Captain Stainforth, who has had the honour to bear His Majesty’s Commission, is under an arrest for making a proposal to cast dice who should assassinate the Commander-in-Chief, and afterwards proposing that the officers should all have fusees at the next review, that he might have an opportunity of shooting me. It gives me pain to relate any of these circumstances, but they must be soon made public, and will bring with them great disgrace upon the Company’s service. Indeed I do not think such a horrid combination can be paralleled in any age or country. Solemn oaths taken, penalty bonds executed, subscriptions put on foot, and every other method devised to ensure success. To enter more minutely into this disagreeable affair would take up volumes; give me leave therefore to refer you to Mr. Walsh or some of our Directors for further particulars. It will give you pleasure to hear of Mr. Strachey’s prosperity; the principles upon which I have proceeded, of adding more to my own fortune, would not admit of my doing great things ; however I have the satisfaction to assure you, he will return a richer man than he came out, without having greatly impaired his constitution. Without something very extraordinary happens I propose leaving India next January, 1767, and hope to have the pleasure of kissing your hands some time next July. Wishing you health and prosperity, I am, with the greatest sincerity, &c., &c. Clive. 320 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, MR. WEDDERBURN TO MR. GRENVILLE. London, September 9, 1766. Dear Sir,—! was in hopes upon my return from the North to have had the pleasure of paying my respects to you at Wotton. Though I have been forced to stay in London for these ten days past, I have lived so little in it that I have hardly seen anybody but paviors and bricklayers. The only other profession which is carried on here at present is politics ; but as I know none of the workmen employed in it, I am not able to give you the least account what they are about. The master politician keeps himself invisible upon the pinnacle of Hampstead Hill, from whence he surveys all the kingdoms upon earth; but how he intends to dispose of them nobody presumes to guess. Fame says, indeed, that he has began at one extremity of the world, and that “ Hydaspes, Indus, and the Ganges, Dread from his arm impending changes.”1 Something, too, is said of the great northern constellation of alliances, which is to be the polar star of the European hemisphere, and it is supposed that this new discovery in astronomy is to be the object of Mr. Stanley’s mission2; but except a few such sounding meta- 1 Lord Chatham had projected a Parliamentary inquiry into the affairs of the East India Company. 2 Mr. Stanley had been appointed Ambassador to the Court of Russia, and it would have been part of his duty to negotiate a triple defensive alliance between the Courts of Great Britain, Russia, and Prussia, with a provision for adding thereto any other powers which were not engaged in the Family Compact of the House of Bourbon. For various reasons, however, this project failed, and Mr. Stanley’s appointment did not take effect. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 321 phors, that I am very unable to express to you in plain prose, there has as yet, I believe, been no talk of any of the intended measures of the new Administration. A few weeks it is to bo hoped will enable us to form a better idea of their schemes; for all accounts agree in this, that Parliament will meet early in November. I have the honour to be, &c., &c. Al. Wedderburn. EARL TEMPLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. September 20, 1766, Saturday morning. My dear Brother,—I have little more to say than that we returned from Woburn on Wednesday, and that we are both in high health and feeding. You have seen the great Rigby, so you best know what judgment to form. He and the Duke were lavish in your praise ; the Duchess1, entirely silent as to politics. The Duke says his day was fixed for town before the Parliament was summoned, he shall, therefore, be there for the first day, and then to Woburn. Nothing to do but lie by and wait events. Lord Gower refused the Admiralty, offered in a letter, not very wise, by the Duke of Grafton. From this you will judge of the state of things. Extremely civil in all respects, which satisfies me perfectly, who only want barely to acquit myself, and to have done. I suppose you learnt by last post that Mrs. Conway2 is dead. Yours most affectionately, Temple. 1 Gertrude, the sister of Lord Gower, of whose influence Walpole tells so much. 2 Aunt to Lord Temple and Mr. Grenville: see ante, vol. i. p. 135, note. VOL. III. Y 322 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. Wotton, September 21, 1766. M y dear Brother,—Mr. Rigby gave me exactly the same account of the Duke of Bedford’s dispositions with that contained in your letter; hut I found his own wishes and opinion was to take an active part at the meeting of the Parliament, instead of laying by and waiting for events, as you tell me the Duke of Bedford proposes. 1 told him that must very much depend upon the part which our friends in general would take. That the consideration of the King’s Speech was a kind of state of the nation, in which we were in some degree called upon to declare our sentiments, and that I should be under no difficulty to deliver mine, and should then see how far others were disposed to adopt them. The account which the present Ministry have industriously given of the great civility and willingness of Lord Gower’s letter, is, I find, one lie more added to the daily heap, as, by what I hear, that letter was, on the contrary, an answer of slight and even ridicule to the proposal, which was as weak in its manner as in the matter of it. You will hear from Mr. Wedderburo, who told me that he should go to Stowe to-day or to-morrow, what he thinks of Lord Bute’s situation ; notwithstanding which I think it very possible that the Chamberlain’s staff may be given to Lord Northumberland, who, it is generally thought, would not be unwilling to receive it. The East India business, I am told, engrosses all conversation in town, and grows very serious. The people can hardly believe, notwithstanding the threats 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 323 thrown out to the Directors, and the language holden by Aiderman Beckford, &c., that after what passed last year with regard to North America and the West Indies, they will this year break through the charter of the East Indies which was purchased by the Company, and which has been repeatedly confirmed by many solemn Acts of Parliament. This would be a stroke indeed worthy of their wisdom and consistency, and which will be a proper crown to the whole. There is to be a general Court of the Proprietors, I am told, next Wednesday, and we may then probably hear more of what is intended. Lord Trevor has this moment left us; but the message which Mr. Rigby brought me from the Duke of Bedford, that he would come hither if a visit from the Duke of Marlborough did not stop him, keeps me at home for some days. I am, my dear Brother, &c., &c. George Grenville. MR. WEDDERBURN TO MR. GRENVILLE. Lincoln’s Inn, September 25, 17*60. Dear Sir,—Instead of paying my compliments to Lord Temple from Mr. Morton’s, as I intended, I found myself obliged to set out for London, by a mistake of my correspondent here, who had neglected to send me down a letter of attorney for transferring some stock which stood in my name as a trustee. The India Court yesterday was very fully attended, and the measure of raising the dividend to ten per cent, seemed to meet with the general approbation. The Directors opposed it, and were supported by Mr. y 2 324 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, Walpole, Salvador, and one or two more of the monied people. The reasons given by the Directors were very unsatisfactory, for they admitted the value of their late acquisitions; the very rich returns now made, and annually to be expected from the trade; they allowed that in June next the dividend must be increased, and perhaps beyond ten per cent.; and only insisted that it should be postponed ’till that time, because they said the money coming in would not greatly exceed the debts to be discharged in that period. The foundation of their whole argument was to consider the effects in their hands as of no value ’till they were actually sold; and they carried this so far as to consider their stock of tea as a distressing circumstance, because it could not all be brought to market in one year. Their arguments had not much weight in general; those who supported them relied chiefly upon the credit that ought to be given to the Directors, and both they and the Directors threw out a great many terrors of the interposition of Parliament. The Chairman read an account of the message sent to the Directors, which, I think, was to this effect: Mr. Dudley and Mr. Rous received a message from the Duke of Grafton, desiring them to attend upon His Majesty’s Ministers, at his house, on the 28th of August. When they came, the Ministers told them that the East Indian affairs would probably come under the consideration of Parliament, anti that the Parliament would be called before Christmas, and it was thought a mark of regard to the India Company to give them that notice. This account was received with profound silence, and the mention of a Parliamentary interposition in the course of the debate seemed to give great alarm, and 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 325 was by no means well received. Some people suppose the Directors, in opposing an increase of dividend, were a little under the influence of Administration, who wished to delay it ’till it might be of use to sweeten some potion they have been brewing for the Company, and I think there were many appearances to support that supposition. Lord Clive’s despatches will come under consideration on Thursday. I find he has not omitted writing to every quarter from whence he could expect assistance; but the popular opinion is not at present in his favour. I have troubled you with a very tedious account of these matters, and shall take the liberty of troubling you again, because they begin to be very interesting. I have heard no other news except that Lord Beauchamp 1 has got the place of Constable of Dublin Castle, with an additional salary of 1000Z. to the old 5001., and for life: this with Orford, and the Mastership of the Horse2, is a very reasonable compensation, methinks, for a troublesome office. I am ever, &c., &c. Al. Wedderburn. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. September 26, 1766. Dear Sir,—1 have received your favour of the 21st instant, and am glad to have it in my power authentically to contradict the accounts which have been so confidently given of Lord Gower’s answer. 1 Eldest son of the Earl of Hertford. 2 The members for the borough of Orford were returned to Parliament by the influence of Lord Hertford, and he was at this time Master of the Horse. 320 GRENVILLE PAPERS. September, I should not, however, he surprised to see that negotiation revived, or some new one opened before the meeting of Parliament, as the Ministry are provided with a tolerable broad basis to begin with; for I look upon it as certain that the Duke of Portland1 will continue only ’till a successor can be found for him, and so long, I understand, he will continue, being determined not to resign. Lord Huntingdon2, too, it is said, is removable whenever there shall be occasion for it; and with two such places to dispose of, they may treat with any party who is inclined to listen to them. I suppose the early meeting of Parliament is occasioned by the dearness of corn, and that the first business will be the prohibition to export it, as a popular measure, though the rise upon it now, which with us is up to fifteen guineas per load, is owing to the expectation of such a measure. The East Indian business, though it will be brought on immediately, would hardly have been a reason for calling them so soon together; that subject does, as you are informed, engross all conversation. What the parliamentary motion is to be does not yet appear; the most probable conjecture is, that it is intended to deny the right of the Company to possess themselves of territory, and that consequently that which they have lately acquired is taken by them for the benefit of the Crown: out of this may arise a proposition that they shall advance a gross sum, or be charged with an annual rent to the Crown, or else that the Crown will take possession. This is however but conjecture, nor did anything appear at the general Court on Wednesday to give a further light into the design. The Directors communicated the message, which occasioned no debate. 1 Lord Chamberlain. 2 Groom of the Stole. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 327 The claim of the Navy to a donation from the late Nabob, assigned by him for payment on the revenues of the country now in possession of the Company, was also brought before them. This being considered a debt charged on those revenues, was voted to be paid, whenever it shall suit the Company’s affairs, to the amount of 150,000/. But the principal business was a motion founded on the late dispatches from Bengal, for an addition of four per cent, per annum to the present dividend. I do not know what arguments were used on either side, but only hear that the Directors declared that they had made the most accurate computation they could of what might be expected to be the state of the Company’s treasury in June next, when the increased dividend is proposed to take place, and that they did not think there would be assets in hand to pay it; notwithstanding which it is supposed the question, which is to be decided by ballot to-day, will be carried by a great majority. On Thursday next is to be another Court, when an attempt will be made to re-instate Mr. Johnstone and others in the Company’s service. This, I think, must necessarily bring on all Lord Clive’s proceedings in India: the party against him here is strong, and if they carry any question 1 shall look upon it as decisive for Mr. Sullivan against the present Directors. THE EARL OF BUCKINGHAMSHIRE TO MR. GRENVILLE. London, October 9, 1766. Dear Sir,—One of Uis Majesty’s messengers arrived at Blickling on Sunday last with a letter from Lord 328 GRENVILLE PAPERS. October, Shelburne, desiring to see mo in town. Accordingly I arrived here on Tuesday, and in the evening waited upon his Lordship. After the first compliments, he entered into a dissertation upon the critical state of affairs in Spain, which I interrupted before he had well concluded his first period, by telling him it would not be candid in me to hear his Lordship enlarge upon the subject, as I had no thoughts of accepting the mission. But not unnecessarily to trouble you with the detail of a conversation of near two hours, it will be sufficient to inform you that the proposition was flatteringly stated, strongly pressed, and decently declined. The world in general guess the occasion for which I was summoned, but I would avoid, as it appears to me illiberal, parading a refusal, and therefore let these particulars sleep with you. I went yesterday to the Levee to present an Address from Norwich, and afterwards had an audience of His Majesty to acquaint him with my having received a letter from the Vice-Chancellor of Russia, informing me that the Czarina had sent me her picture for their Majesties, and a compliment to them upon the occasion. Nothing passed upon the subject of Spain. It concerns me to hear that Mrs. Grenville’s indisposition continues. I return to Blickling to-morrow, where a line from you, informing me of her better health, would give particular satisfaction to your faithful and affectionate Buckingham. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 329 MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. October 10, 1766. Dear Sir,—I have been accidentally in town this week for a day or two, and I find the reflections on the creation of a Duke of Northumberland such as the occasion must naturally suggest. The first thought is, that it must disgust all the nobility, and that it proves an understanding between Lord Bute and Lord Chatham. On the other hand, I can tell you for certain, that Lord Bute says he thinks the Ministry mad, for they draw upon themselves all the odium which a supposed connection with him can raise, without obliging him ; by doing what he does not desire, and neglecting those whom he wishes to see advanced. I am assured from more quarters than one, that this has no relation to any correspondence between them, nor gives any satisfaction to Lord Bute, and indeed the manner of its being done confirms the supposition ; for Lord Northumberland was it seems always of that party among Lord Bute’s friends who were inclined to Mr. Pitt, and thought himself therefore very ill-used in the preference of Lord Hertford to be Master of the Horse. He went to Lord Chatham upon it, who endeavoured to soothe him with the prospect of other arrangements in which he might come into office, but Lord Northumberland told him flatly, that if Lord Hertford kissed hands, there was no office that he would accept of: upon which Lord Chatham held out title, &c.; first tried a marquisate, but as that did not do, the Dukedom was proposed and taken1: so that Lord 1 Lord Northumberland was created a Duke on the 18th instant. He had been Sir Hugh Smithson, but having married the Lady Eliza- 330 GRENVILLE PAPERS. October, Bute really was not privy to the transaction. My idea of this conduct of Lord Chatham is, that he means to gain the King and Lord Bute by distinctions shown to Lord Bute’s friends, and to keep in reserve, ground to say to the people that he never brought them into power. If he should propose Sir Fletcher Norton to be Chief Justice 'without a Peerage, I shall consider it as part of this plan, for it will be removing him out of the way by means of rank and pension, without any political nfluence; but I have heard a more refined idea suggested, and it comes from one of Lord Shelburne’s party, which is, that by such proceedings he will enable himself to say even in the Closet, that he has shown the greatest attention to Lord Bute’s friends, and all will not satisfy him; and this suggestion is so far supported, that it accounts, whereas nothing else will account, for his doing these things without communication with Lord Bute. But however, be his plan this, or any other, I apprehend that party is dissatisfied, and I guess their conduct will be much the same as it was last year, supporting Ministers at the beginning of the Session, and flying off upon some measure before the end of it. The necessary consequences of the hauteur with which Lord Chatham treats all mankind, will be to disgust many persons during the course of the winter, and therefore it will be worth while to endeavour to form as respectable a party as we can for malcontents to resort to. It will not be so bad as is imagined: beth, daughter and heir of Algernon, Duke of Somerset, he succeeded, according to a limitation in the Patent, to the Earldom of Northumberland upon the death of his father-in-law, in 1750. The Duke of Northumberland died in 1786. See Chatham Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 74. 1760. GRENVILLE TAPERS 331 though some are lost, there will be some accessions; Lord George Sackville and Mr. Dowdeswell must be in opposition directly, and others will insensibly drop in, if we do not discourage them by seeming to despair of a party. I think that pains should be taken to get people to attend before Christmas; that the Duke of Bedford should be desired to get his friends together; that some of the country gentlemen should be informed that business of consequence will probably come on, and they should be pressed to attend; and that the Duke of Bedford, Lord Temple, yourself, and some others should be in town at least a week before the meeting, see one another, see your friends, and hold out the appearance of a steady opposition. This is my little plan of politics for the present occasion, not formed upon a supposed possibility of carrying any question against any ministry, but merely upon the necessity of showing a strength to which individuals, or the people, or even the Court, may resort, when disgusted with the proceedings of the Administration. MR. WHATELY TO MR. GRENVILLE. October 20, 1766. Dear Sir,—Since I sent away my last letter I have had a confirmation of all I wrote to you by that conveyance with respect to Lord Bute’s situation. I hear from the Northumberland quarter that the connection between his Grace and his Lordship is not so strong as it was. It was weakened (as I understand) before the ducal creation, and I do not believe that will tend to reunite them. [ hear from another quarter that Lord Bute appears more and more dissatisfied with the pre- 332 GRENVILLE PAPERS. October, sent Ministers every day ; but the disgust is not confined to him, it extends very wide among the principal families of the kingdom. Lord Mansfield’s observation upon it is, that though it is impossible to say when it will show itself, yet that it certainly must break out. He, himself, speaks with the utmost contempt of the late proceedings. He has been lately much with the Duke of Newcastle and the Marquis of Rockingham, and says that though they hold a moderate language, yet they are exasperated to the highest degree. They will, however, and so will Lord Bute’s friends, as parties, at first give a faint support, though individuals belonging to each will take the line of opposition perhaps from the beginning; but angry men cannot be long lukewarm; parties cannot subsist in a state of indifference; and the Session will probably furnish fair occasions enough for them to show their resentment. I hear nothing precise of Mr. Yorke, but that he does not leave the bar; 1 think it however impossible that he should support this Administration. I believe too that we shall see Burke in opposition, but I have a particular reason for desiring this may not be mentioned: when I know more with certainty I will inform you. Dr. Hay and Mr. Ellis I take for granted. Wedderburn’s sentiments, and Sir Fletcher Norton’s, you know. I find opinions divided on the part Sir Gilbert Elliot will take, but I think he will avoid playing a deep game after the disappointment he has met with in the estate he inherits from his father, which does not turn out half so much as he expected. I have a long letter from Lord North, strongly marked with the uneasiness of his situation. Charles Townshend’s language is very discontented. He disclaims all share in administration, abuses their inactivity, and says that 1760. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 333 he shall confine himself to his department. By his account (which he gave yesterday) the Duke of Grafton is totally Lord Chatham’s; that General Conway is ill with his Lordship, hardly ever sees him, and seems to think that he is not much concerned in the parliamentary proceedings, though to be sure he must conduct them; and that nothing is done; that the Manilla ransom, the East India prisoners, and the American affairs, are just where they were, but that he (Mr. Townshend) has nothing to do with them, they are ministerial objects ; that in his own department he finds v the finances in a very flourishing condition, but the immensity of the debt weighs them down ; and speaks with moderation of his ow n operations. He says Lord Townshend is to be a Marquess; but when he tells the state of the application he makes it appear improbable that he should be; for his account of it is, that Lord Townshend wrote to the Duke of Grafton desiring that when Marquesses were appointed he might be one; but the answer he has received is, that the King has it in his intention, but has not formed a resolution to do it. The singularity of which is, he says, its being done without any communication with Lord Chatham, whom Lord Townshend hates mortally. Charles Townshend has also desired the Duke of Grafton to apply for a peerage for Lady Dalkeith ; the Duke declined it, and told him he had better mention it himself, to which Townshend answered that he was sure the King would give him no answer, and Lord Chatham, when consulted, would put a negative upon it. This conversation arose on Lord Maynard’s new patent1, and there it 1 Charles, sixth Baron Maynard. He was advanced to the title of Viscount, and died in 1775 at the age of eighty-five. 334 GRENVILLE PAPERS. October, rests: but both instances prove the truth of your observation on the other claims which the new creations will raise. Townshend’s language yesterday with respect to the India Company was, that nothing could be more absurd than to think of taking away any of their acquisitions, or sharing the power in India between them and the Crown ; that some regulations might bo made at home with respect to the management of the General Courts, and also to bring their affairs in some measure before Parliament every year; that the best thing which could be done would be to make a bargain now for the renewal of their charter, but that he did not know whether the Ministry had any such thoughts ; ho rather believed not, and it was not his affair. As to his own schemes in the finances, he is reserved; but the truth is, that nothing is determined in that, any more than in any other department; I have, however, heard from a variety of hands, some of the projects which are in agitation, most of which will, and perhaps all of them may, come to nothing, but they are the present ideas. To increase the consumption of tea is one object, with which view the duty retained on the exportation to America and to Ireland is to be given up, and some some say sixpence to be taken off from the home consumption. Some scheme is in contemplation with respect to tobacco ; I do not know what, but the end of it is 4 purely commercial. A wild project is talked of for paying off the Civil List debt, and providing an American revenue, both together. It is only supposing that the quit-rents in the Colonies, if properly collected, will be sufficient to support the military establishment there, and then the Crown may sell them to the public for four or five hundred thousand pounds. As extravagant as 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 335 this may seem to you, the Auditor of the Plantations is directed to make out accounts and calculations which lead to such a proposition. The produce of the sinking fund is certainly prodigious ; I shall be able in a few days to make a tolerable guess, and will send you the accounts I get; but from what I have heard already, I imagine it will be at the least 2,500,000/. surplus. I have not heard the selling of the Crown Lands mentioned lately, but I do not know that it is dropped. Jersey and Guernsey I informed you of before. Lord Mansfield observed with pleasure that the Considerations &c., had precluded the Administration from any merit on that and on other accounts. He has read that pamphlet, I hear, and says it is very satisfactory; I believe it is a good deal read and approved of1. It is thrown out that the Parliament will probably enter upon no business except the corn before Christmas ; it is also said that the Opposition mean to arraign the illegality of the embargo. I own I shall be sorry if it be much insisted on; the measure is certainly popular, and few will choose to appear against it; but there is a way of attack which to me seems practicable. The dearness of provisions, as of everything else, is in a great measure owing to the multiplicity of taxes, and to the increase of fictitious wealth by the increase of the stocks. Half the taxes and half the debt were for the German war, and the author of that measure is responsible for this consequence of it: it is to him, and not to the shortness of the crop, that the present distress is owing ; for a light crop of wheat would not make meat, butter, and cheese dear. He has reduced the poor to 1 It has been already stated that Mr. Whately was the author of this pamphlet. 336 GRENVILLE PAPERS. October, such necessitous circumstances as tempts Ministers to illegal measures for their relief, and occasions the dangerous precedent of such exertions of Prerogative. This relief, too, is but a temporary expedient. The only effectual remedy is the diminution of that debt and those taxes ; for which service he is the least qualified of any man, and which he particularly has rendered more difficult by cutting off the resources which the equality of taxation intended by the Cyder Act, and by the American Stamp Act, had opened. 1 the more earnestly wish that whatever is said on this or any other occasion be put upon popular ground, because the people now want an object to look up to, and I hear again since I wrote to you, that you are rising very fast in the public opinion. I should be glad if any popular topic could be thought of, to make a stand upon it. A reduction of the Land-tax to one shilling in the pound, is to a degree, though not entirely, of that nature, and with such a sinking fund would not be improper; but perhaps better subjects will occur to you, and I am sure they deserve your attention. I do not understand this Dukedom of Montague. Lord Cardigan \ who claimed an old promise, was yet so offended at a letter from the Duke of Grafton, as to refuse the offer, and now he accepts it. Sir Fletcher Norton is to be in town this week, and I hope will call upon you in his way to his place in Surrey. Wed-derburn has been with me some days2, which, with some other company, has prevented my writing to you sooner. 1 George Brudenell, fourth Earl of Cardigan. The Dukedom now created became extinct upon his death in 1790. 2 Probably at Nonsuch, Whately’s residence in Surrey. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 337 MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. Bolton Street, November 10, 1766. My dear Brother,—The conversation which I had last night with the Duke of Bedford was as civil and obliging, personally to me, as was possible, but his sentiments with regard to the public business in many respects extremely different from mine. He seemed fully convinced that the Minister was highly blameable in not calling the Parliament, instead of proroguing it to the 11th November, notwithstanding which he was uncertain what part he and his friends could take even upon that question, doubting whether it would not be very improper to give any disturbance whatever, though he should always avow and adhere to the principles and opinions which he declared last year. This is sufficient to give you an idea of the whole. I send you the paper you desired, though I fear it is scarcely exact enough to be absolutely depended upon, but you will send it me back when you have done with it. If you will call upon me when you come from the city I will show you the motions which we propose to make in the House of Commons, which may save you some trouble in forming yours for the Lords. I am ever, my dear Brother, &c., &c. George Grenville. THE EARL OF MANSFIELD TO MR. GRENVILLE. Bloomsbury, November 10, 1766. Dear Sir,—I think it due to friendship to tell you that yesterday morning I turned a little in my thoughts vol. in. z 338 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, the matter you talked of, and cast my eye over the Corn Acts. An embargo is a term well known, and the power exercised in all maritime countries. It differs from a prohibition to export or import merchandize, though it has that effect when laid on ships going out or coming in. Our constitution trusted the executive power with this. It could not be exercised by Parliament. The nature of it is adapted to sudden emergencies of short duration. I incline strongly to think that no authority can be found which confines an embargo to time of war, though the occasions happen most frequently then. The reason may hold equally in time of peace, as in case of famine, or upon apprehension, or preparation. I have a notion that some of the late embargoes as to provision ships from Ireland were before an actual war. The Address from the House of Commons in 1756 is immensely strong. The power is admitted; the only doubt was whether the occasion justified the exercise of it merely as a prohibition to export. In all or most of the Corn Acts before the Restoration there is a power to the King by proclamation to suspend the permission to export. In the Acts after the Restoration that power is omitted; but these permitting Acts all have in view the general prohibition to export, perhaps by that law without licence, by the Statute of Edward III. and Philip and Mary, and certainly have not in contemplation the cases of an embargo; and I am very clear that whatever power the Crown had before, as to embargoes, remains notwithstanding these permitting Acts. That may bring the question to this, whether this embargo is not a colour to prohibit contrary to the permission given 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 339 by the Acts, and therefore an abuse of a power vested in the Crown for one purpose, by applying it to another; but popular opinion and the sense of mankind is in favour of the exertion of the power if the Crown had it. It is clear that when the Parliament gives leave to export from general policy, the King ought not, upon general policy, to prohibit under the colour of an embargo; but an immediate danger of famine resembles the danger of a sudden hostile attack. I send you these confused hints or sudden thoughts, for I am far from being master of the subjects; I have not the materials, and have had no opportunity of searching for them; but this uncertainty may be of use to you as to your measure or manner. A wrong attack positively made upon a popular step would turn into occasion of triumph. The proclamation itself betrays a doubt, and warrants the asking how it is founded in law, with a view to an indemnity. Tell Lord Lyttelton this, because when I saw him I had not thought of it, though in part it struck me in the same light, especially as to the late Acts. MR. GRENVILLE TO THE EARL OF MANSFIELD. November 10, 1766. My dear LbRD,—I have endeavoured to consider the hints contained in your letter with that attention which every thought of yours so well deserves, but I own I cannot see how it is possible to consider the Proclamation in any other light than as a Prohibition to export corn. It is meant as such and as such only, and if it is a Pro-z % 340 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, hibition, it is not only within the meaning, but within the very letter, of the 22 C. II. That Act does not extend to other Provision Ships, nor to Ireland, and therefore no argument can be drawn from thence ; and yet with respect to corn, even to be exported from Ireland, an Irish Act of Parliament was passed last year to enable the King to prohibit the exportation from thence by the advice of the Privy Council of Great Britain or Ireland: and this was done, as I have been told by those concerned, after great consideration had here, and it was certainly founded upon an opinion, after a good deal of enquiry, that the King had not that power, even in Ireland, without it. However pleasing it may have been to the people to stop the exportation by any means, yet the contending for such a prerogative, against the positive words and plain intention of an Act of Parliament, will, I believe, be too odious even for those concerned to insist upon, and this I am persuaded will be the case in the House of Commons, where, by what I have heard, there will not be one gentleman of the Law who will maintain it. This is my present opinion, not lightly taken up, for I have given all the attention to this question which I am able, and shall continue to do so, from the wejght which the least doubt of yours must have with me. I am much obliged to you for having communicated your thoughts to me upon this subject, and am with the most affectionate regard, my dear Lord, &c., &c. George Grenville. P.S. I do not know whether I shall have an opportunity of communicating your letter to Lord Lyttelton before this business comes on, but if I have, I will certainly do it. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 341 MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. Bolton Street, November 18, 1766. My dear Brother,—An event has happened to-day, which fully shows in how different a light the House of Commons considers the doctrines of a dispensing power in the King superior to the Laws, from that in which it was represented in the House of Peers by those great State luminaries the Earls of Northington and Chatham and the Lord Chancellor. Mr. Conway proposed a Bill of Indemnity for all those who acted under the Proclamation and Order of Council for prohibiting the exportation of wheat. I thought this ground too narrow, and proposed that those who advised it might be included in the Bill, but said that if the proposition was not consented to, I would not make the debate in a thin house, though I assured them that after the desperate doctrines which had lately been holden, of a power in the Crown superior to the Laws, this question should not be evaded, but be agitated to the bottom, when I saw how this Bill was framed. Mr. Conway, in answer, did not insist upon the legality, though he refused the words extending it to advisers, &c. Many others spoke in doubtful terms, others were clear for the words of extension, amongst whom Mr. Pitt1 did very well. Aiderman Beckford then spoke, and after many flourishes, said these words: “ If the public was in danger, the King has a dispensing power.” I immediately called him to order, and made the Clerk of the House take down the words, to censure them in the strongest terms. Many got up to excuse him from 1 Thomas Pitt, afterwards Lord Camel ford. 342 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, weakness, inadvertence, ignorance, Arc., but not one to support the doctrine. Aiderman Beckford, after some debate of this kind, said I had stopped him too soon, for that he meant to have added, “ with the consent of the Council, whenever the Salus Populi requires it.” These words I again excepted to, and said that the explanation was at least as criminal as the first words, and directed those words to be taken down by the Clerk likewise, and endeavoured to show them as totally subversive of our Constitution, protesting that if the dispensing power were to be thus established, 1 thought every man dishonoured who would set his foot in the House afterwards. After this, many tried to palliate, but none to justify, and upon my insisting that the words should be retracted, or I would immediately move a censure, and that the House must either approve or censure, for the words must now stand upon the Journals; after an hour or two more, and an universal disapprobation of the doctrines contained in those words, Aiderman Beckford thought fit to consult Mr. Hussey, and by his advice drew up the following explanation in these words, or to this effect: “ That he meant to say, that in the most urgent necessity, it might be excusable to act contrary to law, which was only to be justified by Act of Parliament.” As these words contained exactly my sense in almost my own words, I immediately consented to them, provided they were entered upon the Journals as the proof of our sense of the Law and Constitution. This was done, and thus this day’s debate ended. I know not what preamble they will have to their Bill, but if there is not a full declaration of the Illegality, I shall certainly treat the question fully. What will the three great Ministers say ? What a 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 343 triumph to Lord Mansfield, and to you and your friends! It seems to me that this will produce curious scenes in the House of Peers, if made the most of, as it is most probable that the Bill will come up in a shape very different at least from the opinions laid down there, which however will, I believe, be softened, if not retracted. I would not delay to inform you of this for your curiosity and judgment. The Bill will not be brought into our House for some days. Adieu my dear Brother. I am, &c. George Grenville. EARL TEMPLE TO MR. GRENVILLE. Stowe, November 20, 1766. I congratulate you most warmly, my dear brother, on your glorious triumph, not only over the wild aiderman, but in him over the whole crew of new converts to tyranny and despotism. .Your victory is so complete, that I think it impossible the enemy can rally; their own proposition of indemnity to those who have acted under the Royal Authority admits the illegality, and requires that the indemnity should be extended as you propose. I am impatient to hear the further progress of so wonderful an outset as we were all witnesses to at the first meeting, distinguished for ever by neglect, ignorance, and high prerogative doctrines. But of this, no more at present; if there is likely to be any debate in your House on the second reading, that is, should the Ministry persist in refusing to be indemnified, I will fly up time enough to be present, and in all events will not be absent when it is brought 344 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, up to us, for I shall delight to be present at least at the quibbling retractation of principles odious and diabolical, which these ears have already heard, with an indignation equal to the prostitution1. You know if you send any answer to this to my house on Friday night, it may be with me on Saturday night. .fudge how impatient I must be. Sure Lord Suffolk and Lord Buckingham should be apprized in time. I have had another wonderful epistle from George. As you say nothing of Mrs. G., we take no news to be good. Adieu! I am, &c., &c. Temple. MR. GRENVILLE TO EARL TEMPLE. Bolton Street, November 21, 1766. My dear Brother,—As I thought that in the present critical situation you would be impatient to hear from time to time how things go on, I desired Mrs. Grenville to write last night to Lady Temple, both because I came home so late that I could not have done it so fully myself, and because in all likelihood a letter from her would go safer, and have a better chance to be unopened, than one from me by the post. I shall send this to your house to-night, from thence to be conveyed by the stage coach to you to-morrow. Our Bill of Indemnity is to be brought in on Mon- 1 Junius mentions the subsequent debate in the House of Lords upon this subject, which he says “ I myself heard; ” and, perhaps in allusion to ‘‘the prostitution,” and the “principles odious and diabolical” he says also:—“ There is no act of arbitrary power which the King might not attribute to necessity, and for which he would not be secure of obtaining the approbation of his prostituted Lords and Commons.”— Junius, ii. 362-364.. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 345 day, and we then propose to move for the printing it, and fixing a day for reading it a second time, which probably will be on Wednesday, or, at latest, Thursday. I am assured, that with regard to the preamble the Court will give way, and that they intend in it to assert the illegality of the measure in point of law; but the advisers are not to be included, and if so, we shall be able to enter into the whole debate, upon an instruction to the Committee to insert them, to be moved at the second reading. At all events, 1 think we shall certainly find some ground on which we shall differ, and be able to gall them with the repetition of this odious subject. As to the state of parties, there are ‘many marks which show them to be in a great ferment. Lord Edgecumbe’s1 dismission for Mr. John Shelley has exasperated the friends of Lord Rockingham, who had a meeting the night before last to consider what to do, and the news of this day is, that they are determined to resign, particularly Mr. Conway, who, it is asserted, has had a very angry interview with Lord Chatham, and says publicly that he knew nothing of Lord Edgecumbe’s dismission. The Duke of Grafton says, as we are told, that he would have stopped it if he could, and Lord Shelburne likewise disclaims it, so that the whole of it is laid at Lord Chatham’s door. I have no great faith myself in these general resignations, notwithstanding they are so positively asserted, but the air of 1 George, third Lord Edgecombe; a naval officer, and at this time Rear Admiral of the Blue. Being the patron of four boroughs, he was possessed of considerable parliamentary influence. He was dismissed from his office as Treasurer of the Household, because he declined exchanging it to be a Lord of the Bedchamber, which Lord Chatham considered an affront to the King. 346 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, discontent does certainly appear very strongly among them. Lord Bute’s friends still manifest the same, or rather greater, dissatisfaction than when you went out of town. Sir Gilbert Elliot and Mr. Dyson spoke very fully against the legality, on Tuesday; and Sir Fletcher Norton, Mr. Wedderburn, Mr Thurlow, and almost every lawyer, with all the judges, as ’t is said, but one or two, hold the same language. The lawyers, and almost all our friends, were gone out of the House on Tuesday, when Mr. Aiderman Beckford thought proper to adopt the doctrines of his friends and patrons in the House of Peers, so that we beat them with their own troops. Lord Northington, I hear, swears like a trooper, that we 46 know nothing of the constitution in the House of Commons, but that this is Bute’s villainy; and that he will go to the King and tell him so.” The other sage of the law, the Lord Chancellor, says “ that men are mad, and that they may force him to submit, but that his doctrines are good law, and that he will maintain them.” Lord Chatham is said to complain of Lord Bute, and to declare that either he or Lord Bute’s friends must go out. The Duke of Bedford is gone out of town, as you know, but Mr. Rigby came to me the night before last, and assured me in the strongest terms, that they had not had the least intercourse either directly or indirectly with Lord Chatham, since he left Bath, He said, that he and all the Duke of Bedford’s friends would support me to the utmost upon this occasion; that he was going into the country for two days, but would stay if I chose 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 347 it, and promised to return to town on Sunday. He said he was confident that the Duke of Bedford would come up on purpose from Woburn, if I wished it. His language in general and in particular was as open and explicit as possible. Suspend, therefore, your belief of the reports about them ’till you see further1. I have writ to Lord Suffolk2, to apprize him of this state, and will write to the Earl of Bucks. Adieu, my dear Brother, ever yours, &c., &c. George Grenville. Mr. Burke, Lord Rockingham’s Secretary, spoke for the Bill of Indemnity, to vindicate and avenge, as he said, the Constitution. I send you enclosed the memorable words, as they stand on our Journals :— “ Whenever the Public is in danger, the King has a dispensing power.” “With the advice of Council, whenever the Salus Populi requires it.” “ That on great and urgent occasions, where the safety of the people called for the exertion of a power contrary to the written law of these kingdoms, such exertion of power is excusable only by necessity, and justifiable by Act of Parliament.” THE EARL OF SUFFOLK TO MR. GRENVILLE. Charleton, November 24, 1766. Dear Sir,—I feel infinitely obliged to you for your circumstantial account of a very interesting event which 1 Lord Temple again suspects the Bedfords. 2 Mr. Grenville’s letter to Lord Suffolk contains, in other words, precisely the same information, and therefore I have not inserted it. 348 GRENVILLE PAPERS. November, must have its consequences in both Houses of Parliament. I honour your firmness, and rejoice in its success. As to my thoughts and intentions, which you are pleased to inquire after upon it, I shall very explicitly and confidentially declare them, subject, nevertheless, to revision, when we meet, upon further information from lights which it is impossible to be benefited by at this distance from the scene of action. You say many are disposed to take the matter up in the House of Lords. If by that is meant an early reconsideration of the former debate, an inquiry into the legality of the prohibition, without its coming, of course, before us in the Bill of Indemnity, 1 am clearly of opinion (supposing everything as I left it ten days ago), that Lord Temple, Lord Lyttelton, and your humble servant, without (I suspect it very much) having half a dozen adherents in the House, can effect little by this kind of attack upon Ministry. In such a situation, the contenting ourselves with speaking our sentiments like men above being biassed or intimidated, seems to me to be, for the present, our only rule of conduct. But you express a confidence that the Duke of Bedford’s connection decline taking part with the present Ministers; and add, that the two other great parties begin very publicly to show their dislike. If this be so, the case is much altered, and that becomes very eligible in the one which would not be at all so in the other. If people will speak out; if there are doctrines broached which from public or private considerations they scorn or do not dare to adopt; if they will stand by those who, from principle, are ready to put themselves in the front, I should then advise the immediate recon- 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 349 sideration of this state-necessity law as you term it, in any manner that is parliamentary, without waiting for its being brought again upon the tapis by the intended Bill of Indemnity, or any other Ministerial mode whatever. The decision of the House of Commons will afford abundant reason and argument for such reconsideration. But if we are still to blunder on in the dark, to be played fast and loose with, and have no certain support to depend upon, I should then, in such a case, think it improper and absurd to make ineffectual efforts, or attempt anything further than what becomes our own honour and character as individual^. In this consideration, nothing under heaven shall ever induce me to acquiesce in, or sit silent when I hear it advanced —a doctrine of so dangerous a tendency as the justification of the legality of any power superior to law. * * * (Imperfect.} MR. NUGENT TO MR. GRENVILLE. Great George Street, December 4, 1766. My dear Sir,—I have this day accepted His Majesty’s gracious offer of being made First Lord of Trade, and have communicated my acceptance only to two persons, with whom I am obliged to take some necessary arrangements. It is of some importance to me that it may not be authentically known to many for some days. I flatter myself with hopes that a change of situation will produce no abatement of that friendship with which you have honoured me, and which I shall ever endeavour to deserve by every testimony of affection and respect, with which I ever shall remain, dear sir, your most faithful and obedient servant, R. Nugent. 350 GRENVILLE PAPERS. December, THE EARL OF HARCOURT TO MR. GRENVILLE. Cavendish Square, December 7, 1766. Dear Sir,—I had the misfortune to call at your door this morning about five minutes after you went out, which was the more unlucky, as I wished much to have some talk with you about Jenkinson, who is very much concerned to hear that you are displeased with him on account of a late transaction, of which, if you was apprized of the circumstances, I am inclined to believe that you would not think unfavourably of him \ Lord Chatham wrote to him last Sunday to desire him to call upon him: he waited upon him, and stayed with him an hour. His Lordship pressed him very much to go to the Admiralty, which Jenkinson declined, not only from a dislike to an office which by no means suited him, but on account of some other difficulties which he thought insurmountable. He was told that his refusal would displease the King, more especially considering Mr. Jenkinson’s particular situation. He, however, persevered in his refusal, thinking that the difficulties he had mentioned were sufficient to justify the resolution he had taken. Before they parted a second interview was desired, and declined by Jenkinson as not likely to answer any purpose. He heard no more of Lord Chatham ’till Tuesday, when he was pressed to attend him a second time, when he was told the obstacles were removed and the difficulties surmounted, which left him no room any longer to decline the office, unless he had urged the imprudence of accepting a place which no man can insure him the 1 See Mr, Grenville’s Diary, post. 1766. GRENVILLE PAPERS. 351 possession of three months hence. He actually refused the employment on the Sunday, when there was, according to appearances, a probability of the Duke of Bedford’s acceding, and accepted the office on the Tuesday, when the Administration was in a far more critical, dangerous, and uncertain state. I own I think he has not consulted his interest upon this occasion, but the untoward situation he was in, left him no possibility of taking a different part. I was unwilling that you should be unacquainted with that part of the late transaction that came to my knowledge, and which 1 believe is precisely true. I ever wish, dear Sir, to see my friends deserve your good opinion, because J have the greatest respect and value for it, and am, dear Sir, your most faithful and obliged humble servant, Harcourt. Mr. Jenkinson communicated the above transaction to me in confidence, therefore would beg it might not be mentioned. MR. WILLIAM HAMILTON1 TO MR. GRENVILLE. Naples, December 30, 1766. Sir,—I have now the satisfaction of assuring you that this charming climate has entirely restored Mrs. Hamilton’s health, and I am convinced that she owes her life to your goodness in having sent us hither. We shall never be able to express sufficiently how much we think ourselves indebted to you; but to a heart like 1 Afterwards Sir William Hamilton, K.B., and for so many years Ambassador at the Court of Naples. He was a son of Lord Archibald Hamilton, by a daughter of James, sixth earl of Abercorn. He died in 1803. 352 GRENVILLE PAPERS. December, yours, the reflection of having done good is its own reward. My situation is comfortable now that I am settled ; at first I experienced Monsr. de Guerchy’s having been in the right, et que la premiere mise est furieuse-ment a craindre, especially for a married man in such a country as this, where the whole is expended in exterior parade, the nobility living upon macaroni and greens in order to support a greater number of servants, and to have finer equipages and liveries than their neighbours. The numberless changes and extraordinary events that have happened since I left England, have often brought to my mind the character the Duc de Sully gave of us when he was Ambassador at our Court: “ Environnes de la mer,” says he, “ on croiroit qu’ils en ont contracte 1’instabilit^;” however, I am convinced that though you have met in these bustles with some disagreeable circumstances, yet it is not in the power of man to make you unhappy, as you can sit by your own fireside with the comfortable reflection of having ever acted the part of an honest man, which, begging their pardons, few Ministers can boast of after having been so long employed. Excuse my having taken up so much of your time, but I could no longer resist the pleasure of assuring you that I am, and ever shall be, with the utmost respect and gratitude, Sir, your most obedient and most obliged humble servant, Wm. Hamilton. 1766. 353 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. (Continued from page 227.) 1766. Friday, January 31st.—Lord Hyde came to Mr. Grenville, and told him that Lord Harcourt had been in with the King on Thursday 30th, to make a representation to His Majesty of the present state of things, and to show His Majesty with how little weight and ability his present Administration went on. The King heard him patiently, and when he mentioned the Stamp Act, the King said he was strenuously for supporting and asserting the right of Great Britain to impose the tax, was against the repeal of the Bill, but thought it could perhaps be modified. (Mr. Grenville observed to Lord Hyde that these were the very words Lord Bute had used two nights before in a conversation with Lord Lyttelton.) Lord Harcourt suggested at a distance that His Majesty might make these his sentiments known, which might prevent the repeal of the Act, if his Ministers should push that measure. The King seemed averse to that, said ho would never influence people in their parliamentary opinions, and that he had promised to support his Ministers. Lord Harcourt threw in doubts of their being able to support vol. in. a A 354 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY January, themselves, and then endeavoured to look round and name such people of ability as could form an Administration, named Mr. Grenville as the only man in the House of Commons capable of carrying on the business there, and commended his conduct during the time of his Administration. The King heard him patiently, but as Lord Harcourt reported no precise answer to Lord Hyde, Mr. Grenville imagines nothing gracious was said, because not repeated, and knows that if His Majesty expressed himself angrily Lord Harcourt would conceal it. The King spoke graciously of Lord Hyde, both as to his conduct abroad and at home ; said that a few days would show more of the state of things ; spoke civilly of the Opposition, and said he was glad to hear they were inclined to come into his service, if called to it. These words Mr. Grenville took up, and told Lord Hyde he hoped these words did not regard any declaration made by anybody for him, for that he never yet had said whether he would or would not go back to the King’s service, and that he did desire his Lordship would understand that he was no party to all this transaction, and that he knew nothing of it, took it as no message, nor would he be understood to know that Lord Harcourt had had such a conversation. Lord Hyde assured him that Lord Harcourt should not know that he had told him of it. The conversation with the King passed at two different times, for the Queen came in with the young Princes in the morning, and interrupted it, and the King bid Lord Harcourt come again at night, which he did. Lord Harcourt, when he left Lord Hyde, went directly to Lord Bute, probably to report what had passed between the King and him, by all which Mr. Grenville sees this is a manoeuvre of Lord 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 355 Bute’s to change the present Ministry, and not to appear in it himself, saving himself under the subterfuge of Lord Harcourt going to the King, and he himself not seeing him. The King expressed himself angrily against Mr. Pitt, and said he was glad he had not committed his dignity by seeing him. Lord Suffolk came to me at three o’clock this afternoon in the House of Commons, and told me that he was desired by a person of consequence to let him know whether, if a message were brought from the King to the Duke of Bedford or me, through Lord Bute, it would be received and attended to. I said it was a matter of great delicacy to give any answer, especially as I did not know the party who proposed it, and therefore could only say for myself that I was not disposed to negotiate but with principals; that therefore I thought Lord Suffolk’s best way would be to ask the person who had spoken to him whether he would allow his name to be disclosed, and whether it was meant as a commission to one of us only, or to the Duke of Bedford and me together, in order that he might deliver it accordingly. To this Lord Suffolk agreed, and at eleven o’clock that night, on my return home from the House of Commons, which sat till then on the American papers, 1 found the Duke of Bedford and Lord Suffolk at my house, the latter of whom had writ to me desiring me to take no notice of what had passed between him and me. He opened to the Duke of Bedford and me the proposition, and informed us that it came to him from Lord Marchmont; that he had explained to him that he believed we would not be willing to negotiate but with principals, to which Lord Marchmont replied, that it was only to found an advice from a person of the greatest A a 2 356 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, consequence (whom I guessed to be my Lord Chancellor) and to open the door, that the Duke of Bedford and I might negotiate an Administration with the King himself immediately; that he did not trifle with us, and wished that Lord Suffolk would tell this to the Duke of Bedford and me together. They both agreed with me in my guess that the person giving the advice was the Lord Chancellor, and after some talk together, it was determined to give the following respectful and formal answer, in both our names: “ That any message which the King should send to us by any person whatever, would certainly be received with all respect and duty, and wuth that attention which His Majesty’s commands would always require.”1 We all agreed that this was the only proper answer, as it left us entirely at liberty not to negotiate with Lord Bute, even if he should come in consequence of this message, which we did not think likely ; and on the other hand, a more negative answer might be called indecency to the King, and throw Lord Bute, with all the weight he can carry, into the scale of the Administration upon the present important question of exerting the sovereignty of Great Britain over America, which once gone is irretrievable, and which in the present situation, by Lord Bute’s defection from the Ministry, there is a very fair prospect of preventing. Saturday, February 1st—Lord Suffolk reported this answer to Lord Marchmont, who said it was a very wise and guarded answer, and such a one as he should have expected from those wTho made it, and that he would report it to his friend, but said it would now soon be in 1 See Bedford Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 326. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 357 other hands, that indeed the cat was already out of the bag, for Mr. Elliot, Mr. Oswald, &c., had voted with Mr. Grenville the night before. The King sent for his physicians, having a little cold ; he was blooded, looked flushed and heated, but had not much fever. Sunday, February 2nd.—The King did not go to the Drawing-room, he had still some feverishness,1 but not much, and seemed in a good deal of agitation, and burst out into an expression before the physicians, saying he was willing to do anything for the good of his people, if they would but agree among themselves. Monday, February 3rd.—The King’s cold was better, but I here was no Levee. Lord Chancellor and Lord Rockingham were with him separately for near five hours the day before. The House of Lords and Commons sat upon the American business, the Lords ’till ten at night, the Commons ’till three in the morning. The Duke of Grafton proposed a resolution to the House for establishing the right of Great Britain over her colonies: many Lords spoke, Lord Camden against the right, Lord Mansfield for it: the resolution was carried in the affirmative by 125 against 5 ; viz. Lord Shelburne, Lord Poulet, Lord Camden, Lord Cornwallis, and Lord Torrington. The Commons debated on the same resolution proposed by Mr. Conway, who at the same time declared he should be for the repeal of the Stamp Act. They had no division in that House: Mr. Pitt was there, and spoke with much more moderation than usual. Tuesday, February 4th.—The House of Lords met 1 The reader will not fail to remark how often these feverish attacks follow the King’s political perplexities. 358 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, again upon the same business. The Duke of Grafton proposed a resolution to the House to recommend to the Governors of the American provinces to give compensation to those who had suffered by the late riots. Lord Suffolk proposed an amendment, by putting the word require instead of recommend. Lord Dartmouth and the Duke of Grafton consented to the amendment, but in the course of the debate retracted it again; had a division upon it, which was carried for the amendment by 63 against 60. The King was better, and seemed in great spirits in the morning when his physicians saw him. Wednesday, February 5th.—The House of Commons met again upon the American business, and continued sitting until two in the morning. The House agreed to the Resolutions proposed by Mr. Grenville: he moved two or three, but when he came to the last, Mr. Elliot and Lord Bute’s party (who had conceived some jealousy upon observing that Mr. Pitt and Mr. Grenville had spoken with more civility to each other than on the former days) dissented. Mr. Grenville’s friends would have had him divide the House upon it, but he thought it more prudent to give up the words objected to than to furnish them perhaps with a pretence for leaving him in the main question of the repeal whenever it should come on. Thursday, February 6th.—The House of Commons adjourned ’till the next day, but the Lords met again upon the same business. It was proposed that thanks should be returned to such governors and officers in America as should have obeyed the English Acts of Parliament. Lord Temple proposed the specifically naming the 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 359 Stamp Act, and his amendment was carried by five. Lord Bute spoke in support of the Act, and all his friends voted with Lord Temple, so did the Duke of York. The Chancellor still holds the language of a change of Ministry, and says it must be Mr. Grenville and his friends: he desired the Duke of Bedford would adjourn the House, hoping something might be settled. Sir Fletcher Norton talks in the same style to Mr. Grenville, but the Ministry seem determined not to resign, which indeed Mr. Grenville does not seem to think they could do with safety, leaving such a charge against them as their neglect in the accounts of the disorders in America in their enemies’ hands ; and it does not look at present as if the King would dismiss them. Friday, February 7 th.—The House of Commons sat ’till eleven o’clock. Mr. Grenville proposed the address of thanks similar to that of the Lords, with the Stamp Act specified: there was a debate upon it. Mr. Pitt came down at four o’clock, made a very insolent overbearing speech, with great personal animosity to Mr. Grenville, and when he had done walked out of the House. Mr. Grenville got up after him, called to him to stay, but upon his going out, said he found himself under the necessity of answering that gentleman, as if he was present, and did it in very strong terms and with great applause. The House divided upon the words Stamp Act, which was carried in the negative by a majority of 140, and the Court party seemed much elated. Saturday, February Sth.—Mr. Grenville received a letter from Mr. Pitt to excuse his having withdrawn the night before, to which he returned a cold answer1. 1 See ante, page 231 360 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, Sunday, February 9th.-—Mr. Grenville received advice from a fresh quarter1, that Lord Bute wished to have a personal interview with Mr. Grenville, to which Mr. Grenville made answer that he concluded the Duke of Bedford was included in any proposition to be made to him, and that with him he was ready to hear any proposition Lord Bute should be authorized to make. The Duke of Bedford came in the evening, and Mr. Grenville and he talked the matter over together. In the meantime, Lord Temple had intelligence from other hands of the Queen’s favourable dispositions towards him, and of the King’s dislike to his present Ministry. Lord Temple made professions of his zeal for the King’s service at this dangerous crisis, saying he was willing to shew that all heat was subsided in his mind, and that he should esteem himself happy to be the instrument to rescue the King out of the hands of those who wanted and meant to take him prisoner; that 1 The following memorandum is thus endorsed in the handwriting of Mr. Grenville :— (t Paper delivered to me by Mr. Cadogan, writ in his own hand, containing an account of what he had said in consequence of the proposition which he brought to me on Sunday the 9th of February, 1766, to see Lord Bute, and which he said he had authority to make to me. This paper was given to me by Mr. Cadogan on Thursday, February 13th, 1766, the day after I had seen Lord Bute, to satisfy me that no part of the mistake attending that transaction had been owing to Mr. Cadogan, who was the only person whom I saw concerning it.” “ That Mr. Grenville is ready to receive any proposition Lord Bute thinks proper to make. Then in conversation that it is wished that the proposition should come jointly to the Duke of Bedford and Mr. Grenville, whether it comes by interview or otherwise; if by interview, there is no disposition in either of the above parties to look back to what is past, or consider anything but what is now best for the King’s service. If pressed on the subject of the Duke of Bedford, to hint that as something of this kind has been lately made to them jointly, the leaving him out now would have an odd appearance ; but all this must be distinguished from any idea of a proposition on their parts, it being only to clear the ground for anything Lord Bute has to say.” 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 361 even if the King had delicacies about sending to him after what had passed in May last, he would save Uis Majesty the blush by asking an audience. These thoughts he set down on paper, and the person took away the paper with them1. Lord Bute was known to have been four hours on Saturday with the King, but the Ministry give out that his favour is declined. They likewise plead the King’s name for the repeal of the Stamp Act. Monday, February Wth.—Lord Bute had it conveyed to Mr. Grenville that he wished to meet him at two o’clock at Lord Eglintoun’s, to which Mr. Grenville agreed, but said he must send to the Duke of Bed-ford to be present: there was some mistake in the delivering the messages, and nine o’clock at night was named by Mr. Grenville, and agreed to by Lord Bute, who not only desired to have the Duke of Bedford 1 This was probably a recommencement of the advances which had been made towards Lord Temple through the medium of the Queen, in October, 1765. It corroborates in some degree the circumstances related by Almon (Political Anecdotes, vol. ii. p. 58), with the exception that the agency is by him referred to the Princess Dowager of Wales and Lord Bute. He says:—“ By the assistance of a great Lady at Carlton House, he (Lord Bute) contrived to amuse Lord Temple during the months of March and April, 1766, with the daily expectation of a carte blanche. Lord Temple was for several weeks the dupe of this device ; and notwithstanding Lord Bute’s visits at Carlton House were notorious, yet this matter was so unreservedly declared to be totally independent of him, that had not, by accident, the cloven foot, as Lord Temple called it, appeared unexpectedly, the deception might have been continued some time longer; until perhaps some measure or arrangement might have been produced by it.” * * * * “ But while he (Lord Bute) remained obstinately attached to the continuation of his secret influence, Lord Temple, who was always furnished with correct information of certain secret visits and meetings, received with submission and examined with jealousy every proposition that came from the Court. To this sedulous attention he owed the peculiar honour of being the only English nobleman who had not been deceived and subdued by the intrigues of Lord Bute.” 362 MR. GRENYILLE’S DIARY February. present, but Lord Temple too, if he chose it. Lord Temple declined it; but Mr. Grenville did not receive the answer, so Lord Bute went and waited at Lord Eglintoun’s, but neither the Duke of Bedford nor Mr. Grenville came. Lord Temple came to Mr. Grenville in the evening, and told him that by the channel from which he himself (Lord Temple) drew his intelligence, he had information of all that had passed between him and Lord Bute by message. Lord Strange1 went into the King’s Closet, where, whilst he was speaking to him upon business, Uis Majesty interrupted him, and said he heard his name had been unjustly made use of, as if he wished the repeal of the Stamp Act; that he was so far from doing it, that he wished the Act to stand, but with such modifications as Parliament should judge necessary. Many of His Majesty’s Ministers went in to endeavour to get leave to dismiss some of those of his servants who had voted with the Opposition, but could not prevail; and Lord Strange told everybody he met of the discourse His Majesty had held to him, which was in direct contradiction to what had been propagated for the last two days by the Ministers. Tuesday, February 11th.—The Duke of Bedford and Mr. Grenville thought they were to meet Lord Bute at Lord Eglintoun’s at half-past nine at night, and went there accordingly; but, when they came, Lord Eglin-toun told them Lord Bute was not to be found, 1 Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. The eldest son of the Earl of Derby had assumed the title of Lord Strange, although it had really passed as a Barony in fee, by females, to the Duke of Athol. In the next generation the Derby family took Stanley as their courtesy title, but it was not until 1832 that a Barony of Stanley was really created in that House, into which the present Earl of Derby was called up in vita patris, in 1844. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 363 and gave them to understand that he was with the King. Wednesday, February 12th.—Lord Eglintoun came to Mr. Grenville to acquaint him that Lord Bute would be at his (Lord Eglintoun’s) house, at one o’clock, to meet the Duke of Bedford and him. They went to the time appointed, and Lord Bute came soon after, but denied, and made it clear to a demonstration, that he had never sent any message, but on the contrary, he thought, from what was told him, that the Duke of Bedford and Mr. Grenville had wished to see him; but he was very civil, and said, if Lord Eglintoun had done it, either ignorantly, or wishing to bring them together, he was obliged to him for it; that he desired not to look back, but to look forward, and was glad to find himself upon the same ground as them, in the great measure now before Parliament, and which had called him out as a public man; that he never looked but to a private line, and meant never to deviate from it. All this was answered with great civility, both by the Duke of Bedford and Mr. Grenville. Lord Bute told them he lamented the unhappy state of the King, but knew none of his opinions, as he never saw him ’. The Duke of Bedford declared he would never come into Government again, and Mr. Grenville said, that if this Act was repealed, nothing should ever make him come into the King’s service to carry it into execution2. 1 This is inconsistent with Mr. Grenville’s information that on the Saturday previous Lord Bute had been four hours with the King, and only the day before, when the Duke of Bedford and Mr. Grenville were waiting at Lord Eglintoun’s to have an interview with Lord Bute, they were informed by Lord Eglintoun that he was not to be found, and gave them to understand that he was with the King. 2 There are several conflicting accounts of this negotiation and of the interview which took place between Lord Bute, the Duke of Bedford, 364 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, Lord Rockingham sent to desire Lord Strange would come to the Levee, which he did. They had some angry words about the declaration made by Lord Strange and Mr. Grenville, at the house of Lord Eglintoun. Mr. Grenville’s narrative is now before the reader: the Duke of Bedford’s statement is in the third volume of the Bedford Correspondence; and Almon’s account is contained in the second volume of his Political Anecdotes, and it is said to be derived from the information and even from the language of Lord Temple. Horace Walpole, too, has given, with an air of probability, the opinions of the Duke of Bedford upon what had passed between Lord Bute and himself. Walpole asserts that Lord Temple had intended to be present, but that at the hour of meeting he excused himself from attending it. He adds, “ The Favourite, however, had the triumph of beholding the Duke of Bedford and George Grenville prostrate before him, suing for pardon, reconciliation, and support. After enjoying the spectacle of their humiliation for some minutes, the lofty Earl, scarce deigning to bestow upon them above half a score monosyllables, stiffly refused to enter into connection with them; on which the Duke of Bedford said hastily, ‘ He hoped, however, that what had passed would remain a profound secret.’ ‘ A secret! ’ replied the Favourite, ‘ I have done nothing I am ashamed of,—has your Grace ? ’ and quitted the room. As if Lord Bute’s refusal of secrecy made it prudent to expose even more than Lord Bute could tell, the Duke went home, and at dinner with sixteen persons, and before all the servants, he related what had passed; and then said to the Duchess and his Court, ‘ I was against taking this step, but you would make me.’”a Although Lord Eglintoun afterwards professed to be in great distress at having so much mistaken the business or misrepresented it, there can be no doubt but that the meeting was the result of a preconcerted arrangement between himself and Lord Bute, and it seems equally certain that the latter was disappointed at the absence of Lord Temple, \ who was by far the most important person to be gained; he knew that George Grenville would be sure to follow his brother, and the Duke of Bedford was also at this time in close alliance with Mr. Grenville, besides that in conciliating Lord Temple, there was also a remote chance of, at least, moderating the opposition of Mr. Pitt, in his views with regard to J the repeal of the Stamp Act. That Lord Bute was disappointed in not seeing Lord Temple is in some measure corroborated by his having taken no further notice of this meeting of the 12th of February. The Duke of Bedford observes in his “Minutes” of the affair : “Hearing nothing of any sort from Lord Bute, on Monday the 17th, I took the liberty to speak to the Duke of York upon the circumstances of the * Memoir/ of George III., vol. ii. p. 295. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 365 of the King’s opinion, upon which Lord Strange went into the Kind’s Closet, to ask if he had mistaken the sense of what he had been pleased to say to him ; the King confirmed it, and said he had not. Lord Rockingham declared the King had told him he was for the repeal of the Act, set it down upon paper, and went into the Closet to ask if that was not what His Majesty had said to him. The King wrote under it in pencil that he had said so, but it singly was in answer to the two propositions only, of enforcing or repealing, and that of those two he thought the last the best \ present times.” a Last of all comes the commentary of Junius upon these transactions, who a few years later accuses the Duke of Bedford of descending to “ the humility of soliciting an interview with the Favourite, and of offering to recover, at any price, the honour of his friendship.” Junius subsequently added in a note, “ Lord Bute told the Duke that he was determined never to have any connection with a man who had so basely betrayed him.” 1 The insinuation of double-dealing here implied against the King, has been very satisfactorily refuted in the Quarterly Review, vol. Ixxvii. pp. 285-6. “ The King avowed what he had said to Lord Strange—he rebuked Lord Rockingham for telling but half the story, and boldly, we dare say somewhat indignantly, wrote—so as to admit of no misrepresentation, on Lord Rockingham’s paper, the important qualification of his opinion, which Lord Rockingham had suppressed.” The following passage is from Lord Temple’s Pamphlet, entitled The Conduct of the late Administration examined, de., 1767. “But this was not the only instance in which they represented the sentiments of their Sovereign : when they were to influence by authority those whom popular tumult could not terrify to consent to the repeal of the Stamp Act, they had recourse to the name of the King; assuring those who would hear them, that the King wished it might be repealed b. The part of honest and affectionate servants was the very reverse of this; supposing the measure itself to have been just, all mention of that name should have been suppressed, till the success of the repeal being ascertained, the wishes which he expressed for the relief might be held out as the object of the gratitude of his people; * Bedford Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 329. b " The reputation of public measures depends upon the Minister, who is responsible, not upon the King, whose private opinions are not supposed to have any weight against the advice of his counsel, whose personal authority should therefore never be interposed, in public affairs. This I believe is true constitutional doctrine.”—Junius, ii. 126. 366 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, This Lord Strange told to Mr. Grenville on Thursday the 13th, and said, the King had said that the Duke of Grafton and Lord Rockingham had often endeavoured to persuade him of the expediency of repealing the Bill, hut without effect. Lord Temple came to Mr. Grenville in the evening, and told him he knew, by the same private channel as before \ all that had passed in relation to their interview but to quote this authority, and to risque thereby this reputation for the promotion of their own party purposes, was a conduct neither suggested by their duty to their Sovereign, nor by regard for the constitution : this reserve would have been necessary had the opinion of the King been that which they attributed to him; but it is certain that they falsified as well as prostituted9- the sentiments of the King : it is certain, although when contradicted on this subject by those who could do it with authority, they endeavoured to avoid the disgrace of this contradiction by an expedient borrowed from their only school of business, those clubs of gaming in which gentlemen do not trust the unwritten words of gentlemen, and demanded in writing the words of their Sovereign. His words were the genuine dictates of his wisdom and love for his people; careful of the safety of all his subjects, he wished to unite them all by the bands of mutual support, and by a community of duties as well as of rights. They can claim no merit towards the Crown, who by their artifices prevented the execution of that royal wish; but must with terror look forward to that hour, for it will come, when Augustus, grieved with the remembrance of the only loss which can obscure the glories of his successful reign, shall demand from them a restitution, not of a province, but of an empire more extensive than that of Rome; not of three legions, but of whole nations of subjects.” 1 This is the second occasion on which Lord Temple has lately professed to have a “ private channel ” of information relative to the doings of Lord Bute. (See ante, 362.) The same system of secret espionnage is described by Almon (“Lord Temple's man ”) to have occurred in the following June and July, when for eighteen successive days, the movements of Lord Bute, and his evening visits to the Princess Dowager of Wales at Carlton House, were most vigilantly recorded by some unknown chronicler; not improbably the same person from whom Lord Temple now “ drew his intelligence.” This “faithful journal," as it is called, will be found in Almon’s Anecdotes of Lord Chatham, vol. ii. p. 168, edit. 1792. It should be remembered that in the presentation copy of this work, which Almon sent to Lady Chatham, he wrote,— a A very favourite word with Junius, and often used by him in this sense. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 367 with Lord Bute, and said that Lord Eglintoun had been in great distress at having so much mistaken the business, or misrepresented it. Saturday, February 15th,—Lord Harcourt came to Mr. Grenville at ten in the morning, had a long discourse with him, lamenting the general state of things, the situation of the King, and particularly with respect to the present business of the Stamp Act; giving Mr. Grenville to understand that he and Lord Temple were the people on whom everybody’s eyes were turned, and wishing the King would come to the resolution to make the change. Mr. Grenville said in general, that neither Lord Temple nor he were desirous to come into Government, considering the desperate situation of affairs, and more especially if the Stamp Act was to be repealed ; that he, for his own part, would never come in to be the instrument to carry that repeal into execution, nor did he wish to force himself into the King’s service at any rate; that the task of a Minister was always difficult enough, but in times like these, much too hazardous without the full countenance and favour of the Kin#; that, on the other hand, he was not desirous to disturb the King’s Government; that if His Majesty thought proper to form such a Government as could carry on his affairs, though he himself was not part of it, he should be glad to support it, and give every facility to it in his power. Lord Harcourt commended his moderation and the good sense of what he said, and told him he would take care the King should know it, and asked if he should “ From your Ladyship’s noble brother, the late Lord Temple, I received the most interesting part of these anecdotes : his Lordship honoured me with his friendship and esteem many years.” 368 MB. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, find him at home in the evening in case he could call upon him again : Mr. Grenville said yes, but he did not return. Lord Temple called upon Mr. Grenville in the evening, and told him he had met Lord Denbigh at dinner at Lady Blandford’s, with whom he had had a great deal of discourse; that Lord Denbigh had said how necessary Lord Bute thought it that some great Lord should go to the King to represent to him the distressed situation of affairs. Lord Temple told him what he had already done upon that head, and repeated the same to Lord Denbigh, who said he would go the next morning to the Queen’s house to report it to the King. They agreed that Lord Denbigh should write a letter to Lord Temple recommending this, to which he should send an ostensible answer. Lord Denbigh saw Lord Bute that night, and at twelve o’clock sent to Lord Temple for his letter. The next morning Lord Denbigh came to Lord Temple, said he bad considered the matter fully, that the King did not like to be spoken to on these subjects, that he (Lord Denbigh) should be the victim of it, and that he desired to have his own letter back, and would restore Lord Temple’s, which accordingly was done, and the two letters burnt, which Lord Temple suspects was by Lord Bute’s suggestion. Monday, February IJth.—Lord Temple wrote a note to Mr. Grenville, telling him hearts had failed1, and nothing had been done, and soon after came and told him that Lord Denbigh went to Lord Bute, talked the matter over with him, and they both thought it best to say nothing of it. Lord Gower came to Mr. Grenville 1 In allusion, I presume, to the timidity of Lord Bute. The words of Lord Temple’s note are:—“ Their heart has again failed. I will tell you particulars when I see you. This only inter nos.” 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 369 to acquaint him that the Duke of York had desired him to use the same language from his Highness to the Duke of Bedford, namely, the necessity of some person of consequence desiring to see the King to represent the present dangerous crisis to him. The Duke of Bedford said he was ready to do it provided it would not be disagreeable to His Majesty; that he would ask an audience, and deliver his own sentiments to His Majesty, saying at the same time that Mr. Grenville concurred in them: this was writ down on paper, but Mr. Grenville desired, his name might not be mentioned, representing to Lord Gower the impropriety of it, from the difference of situation, viz., the Duke of Bedford going to the King as a great Peer, determined to take no office ; whereas it would seem as if Mr. Grenville came to solicit the office from which he had been dismissed. This was in consequence of the Duke of Bedford having reported to the Duke of York what had passed between Lord Bute, his Grace, and Mr. Grenville, when Lord Bute had assured them both, that having no intercourse with His Majesty, nor never seeing him, he could not make any representation to him, upon which the Duke of York desired to have a memorandum from the Duke of Bedford, the copy of which Lord Gower shewed to Mr. Grenville1. His Grace therein refers to the conversation he had had with Lord Bute, and the declaration Lord Bute had made of his not being able to make known his Grace’s sentiments to the King. He therefore desires his Royal Highness will be pleased to acquaint His Majesty that if he thinks to stop the further progress of the measure now before Parliament, and to change his Ministry, his Grace was ready to re- 1 See Bedford Correspondencet vol. iii. p. 326. ■ VOL. III. B B 370 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, ceive his commands to come and lay open his sentiments to him, and he believed Mr. Grenville was in the same disposition. Mr. Grenville objected to the words relating to him for the reasons already mentioned. The motion for the repeal of the Stamp Act in the House of Commons is fixed for Friday. Tuesday, February 18^.—Mr. Rigby came to Mr. Grenville in the House of Commons, told him that he had seen Lord Gower, who reported from the Duke of York that His Majesty had given a favourable hearing to the suggestions His Royal Highness had made to him, and was very well pleased with what the Duke had said to him from the Duke of Bedford, namely, that if His Majesty still continued in sentiment against the repeal of the Stamp Act, and for the modification of it, he (the Duke of Bedford) was ready to receive his commands whenever he should please to allow him to lay his sentiments before him, and would give every assistance in his power to the modification of the Bill. The King told the Duke of York that he was firm in his opinion for the modification, and against the repeal of the Bill; that he had told his Ministers so very often, who had always endeavoured to persuade him to give in to the repeal, and to avail himself of the popularity of the measure, but that he had told them he never would, and that they would ruin him, themselves, and the nation, by trying for popularity; that as to what the Duke of Bedford had conveyed to him, he must take some little time to think of it, and seemed afraid, lest the seeing the Duke of Bedford might be deemed treating with him. The Duke of York intended to go in the evening to shew the paper to the Princess of Wales. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 371 Wednesday February IQth.—Mr. Cadogan came to Mr. Grenville and acquainted him with all that had passed between the King and the Duke of York on the preceding day, saying that the Duke of York was extremely satisfied with the manner in which the King had received what he had said to him, and that his behaviour had been full of affection to the Duke of York. Mr. Cadogan repeated all that Mr. Grenville had already heard from Mr. Rigby, particularly the King having strongly disclaimed to his Ministers the availing himself of a vain popularity, which he said would undo his people, in giving up the rights of his crown; that to this he would never consent; that they gave him bad advice in it, and would ruin him and the nation by affecting popularity. In regard to the Duke of Bedford’s proposition, His Majesty said he had made it a rule never to refuse an audience to any nobleman whatever, but seemed apprehensive that in the present conjuncture it might be deemed treating. The Duke of York said that must be as His Majesty pleased. The King said he heard that the Duke of Bedford, Lord Bute, and Mr. Grenville, had acted very much like men when they met, in laying aside all private prejudice, and resolving to act for, and to consider the good of, the public alone. The Duke of York always deplored the sad state of the kingdom, and the danger of the repeal of the Act. The King by a letter he wrote to his brother the same evening thanked him for having spoken to him upon the subject, but said when a measure was once before Parliament, it must abide the decision of Parliament, deeming it unconstitutional and improper in any b b 2 372 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY February, way to interfere, but that his sentiments were as strong as ever against the repeal1. The Duke of York saw the Princess of Wales on Tuesday evening, and told her what had passed; she seemed under very great anxiety, lest it might prejudice the Duke in the King’s opinion, and seemed very apprehensive of the consequence for him, though pleased with what she heard of the King’s manner of taking it. The Duke rode with the King in the morning, and they talked a great deal upon the same subject, and bid the Duke of York come to him again the next morning. Mr. Grenville told all this to Lord Temple, who did not expect that anything would happen in consequence of it, and was full of approbation of Mr. Grenville having desired to have his name omitted in the paper, and the 1 These sentiments appear strangely inconsistent with some letters not dated, hut supposed to have been written about this time, by the King, to Lord Rockingham and General Conway, and printed in Lord Albemarle’s Memoirs of Lord Rockingham. t( Talbot,” says the King, “ is as right as I can desire, in the Stamp Act—strong for our declaring our right, but willing to repeal; and has handsomely offered to attend the House daily, and answer the very indecent conduct of those who oppose with so little manners or.candour.” When leave was given to bring in the Bill for the Repeal of the Stamp Act, by a large majority, the King thanks Lord Rockingham for the particulars of the debate in the House of Commons, “ which, by the great majority, must be reckoned a very favourable appearance for the Repeal of the Stamp Act in that House.” To General Conway the King writes:—“ Nothing can in my eyes be more advantageous than the debate in the House of Commons this day.” Again, on the following day, to Lord Rockingham:—“ I am much pleased that the appearance was so good yesterday.” Nevertheless, it is tolerably certain that George TH. was at this time very desirous of getting rid of the Rockingham Administration, and he would have been equally willing, if possible, to have prevented the Repeal of the Stamp Act. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 373 Duke of Bedford was likewise very well satisfied that it should be omitted. The Duke of York in the House of Lords came to Lord Aylesforct, spoke long to him upon the Stamp Act, declared his sentiments against the repeal, and said he was happy in knowing the King to be in the same opinions, notwithstanding his name had been so improperly dealt out to the contrary, but that he was very sure of what he advanced, having seen the King that morning. Thursday, February ^Oth.—Mr. Grenville went to the Queen’s Drawing-room (her birth-day being kept that day), and was very civilly received both by King and Queen. Friday, February ^\st.—The repeal of the Stamp Act was moved by Mr. Conway, and seconded by Mr. Grey Cooper. The House sat ’till four in the morning. The question for the repeal was carried by a majority of 108 voices. Thursday, April 10th.—Mr. Grenville went to see Lord Mansfield, who told him that he had seen the King the day before; that he had asked an audience to acquaint the King with Lady Stormont’s death, and, in consequence of it, to obtain a discretionary leave for Lord Stormont to come for some time to England, when his private affairs should require it1. His Majesty received him with the utmost graciousness, expressed his concern for whatever affected Lord Mansfield, saying he should be ungrateful if he did otherwise, being more 1 David, seventh Viscount Stormont, probably held some diplomatic appointment at this time. He was afterwards Ambassador at Paris in 1772, and subsequently Secretary of State and President of the Council. He succeeded to the Earldom of Mansfield on the death of his uncle in 1793, and died in 1796. He married a daughter of Count Bunau, a Privy Councillor to the Elector of Saxony, and his Minister to the Court of London. 374 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY April, obliged to his Lordship than to any man in the kingdom ; inquired much after his health, and upon Lord Mansfield’s asking His Majesty how he did, said he had got his pain again in his breast, which he feared he never should get rid of, saying it was the same complaint as the Duke of Leeds has, but that he was otherwise well. His Majesty naturally enough led the conversation to business, by inquiring how Lord Mansfield had borne the fatigue of the House of Lords, where there had been a great deal of business, particularly in relation to the repeal of the Stamp Act. Lord Mansfield lamented that unhappy step, which he said he feared had given a mortal blow to Great Britain, of which God grant that His Majesty might not feel the fatal effects in the extent in which he (Lord Mansfield) apprehended. He took notice of the King’s name having been bandied about in a very improper manner, to w7hich the King assented, saying he had been much displeased at it, as thinking it unconstitutional to have his name mentioned as a means to sway any man’s opinion in any business which was before Parliament; that all those who approached him knew that to be his sentiment. Lord Mansfield said he differed from His Majesty in that opinion, for that though it would be unconstitutional to endeavour by His Majesty’s name to carry questions in Parliament, yet where the lawful rights of the King and Parliament were to be asserted and maintained, he thought the making His Majesty’s opinion in support of those rights to be known was very fit and becoming. Lord Mansfield told the King that he knew not in what light his own conduct through that whole affair might have been stated to His Majesty, but that he 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 375 could assure him he had entered into no set plan of opposition; that he was no party man, but a hearty and sincere well-wisher to his King and country, and both as such, and from his thorough approbation of the propriety and wisdom of the measure of laying the Stamp Duty, he had endeavoured to support it to the utmost of his power, and to show his full disapprobation of the repeal, but that what he had done had been from opinion only, in no concert with any man whatever, for he could safely say no man knew his opinion upon it ’till he delivered it in the House; and, as a proof of it, told the King of his having refused to take Lord Bathurst’s proxy, because he would charge himself with no man’s conscience but his own. The King said he had had justice done him by those who had reported the debates to him, saying that Lord Mansfield had some friends among the Ministers, but that the reports were made with certain colourings conformable to the sentiments of those who reported, as for example, that he had been told that Lord Mansfield had spoken much better upon the right, than upon the repeal, at which they both laughed. The King heard all he said with ease and seeming assent, and in the course of the conversation Lord Mansfield mentioned Mr. Grenville, saying he was the man in all England of whom he thought the best; that he had lived long with him in great intimacy, but had concerted no measure of opposition with him, nor did he understand that the part Mr. Grenville had taken, or meant to take, was that of saying anything whatever in opposition which he should be obliged to unsay in any other situation; that as to the resisting the repeal of the Stamp Act, or any other thing done by him whilst in the Administration, 376 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY July> it was what, as a man of honour, he was obliged to do, in support of those opinions which had led him to those measures. Wotton, July 11th, 1766.—Mr. Grenville received a letter from Lord Thomond, acquainting him that the day before (the 10th of July, the same day on which Mr. Grenville had the preceding year delivered up the Seal) the King had declared to his Ministers that he had sent to Mr. Pitt to come and form an Administration, assigning for his reason their having taken no steps to strengthen his Government. Several other letters confirmed the same, and all agreed that the measure was totally unexpected by them. Lord Chancellor wrote the letter by the King’s order to Mr. Pitt \ Sunday, July 13th.—Mr. Grenville had a letter from Lord Temple, repeating much the same intelligence, but saying he had it from no head-quarters. In the evening letters came in, saying that Mr. Pitt arrived on Friday, and saw the King on Saturday. Lord Bute’s friends say he knew nothing of the measure, that it was not his doing, and that his language seems to disapprove it. Monday, July 14th.—Mr. Grenville went to dine at Sir William Lee’s2, where, soon after he arrived, they brought him word that Lord Temple was there, and desired to speak with him. His Lordship told him that he had received a letter8 that morning from the Chancellor, signifying the King’s pleasure to him, that he should come to town to consider upon settling a Govern- 1 Enclosing one from the King himself, for which see Chatham Correspondence, vol. ii. p. 436. The King wrote several letters to Lord Chatham upon this occasion. s At Hartwell. 3 See ante, p. 263. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 377 ment to carry on the King’s business with ease. lie set out immediately, and hearing that Mr. Grenville was at Hartwell, called there to apprize him of it. Lord Temple and Mr. Grenville conversed together for near an hour, and then Lord Temple went on. Thursday, July 17 th.—Lord Temple returned to Stowe, and sent an account to Mr. Grenville, in a letter, of what had passed between Mr. Pitt and him \ Mr. Grenville immediately set out with Mr. Nugent for Stowe, where Lord Temple related all particulars to him at large. Mr. Grenville went to Woburn, on Saturday, the 16th of August, The Duke of Bedford received him with great marks of friendship and kindness, and said he meant to have come over to Wotton, if he had not seen him there. He declared very strongly to Mr. Grenville that he continued firm in his former opinions, made many declarations of the strongest and most friendly dispositions towards him, and that he would nor could have nothing to do with Lord Chatham, the totality of whose measures he disapproved. The Duchess expressed great jealousy and apprehension of a reconciliation between Lord Temple and Lord Chatham, which Mr. Grenville endeavoured to destroy. Sunday, August 17th.—Lord Tavistock came to Woburn to acquaint his father with the offer made to Lord Gower, the particulars of which are in the copy of a letter from Mr. Grenville to Lord Temple2. Mr. Rigby came to Wotton on [ . . . J of £ . . . . ], saying the Duke of Bedford would, if possible, come to Wotton before he went to Bath, expressing in the same 1 See ante, p. 267. 8 See ante, p. 302. 378 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, strong manner as before his preference to Mr. Grenville. Mr. Rigby was as warm in his declarations, and eagerly pressed Mr. Grenville to enter, upon the very first opening of Parliament, into a warm opposition. Mr. Grenville said he should be ready to take his part, as he ever had done; but after having done that, if he found himself deserted as he was last year, and left to speak to empty walls, he should withdraw, and follow his ease and pleasure as others did theirs. Mr. Grenville received many letters during the course of the summer, and saw a great many people; the letters will best explain what they meant to convey, and the conversations were agreeable to the different sentiments of the people, but there always appeared a great deal of manoeuvre in Lord Bute, through such of his friends as were not in office, to keep a degree of communication with Mr. Grenville, though in a manner not clearly avowed. 1766. Monday, November 3rd.—Mr. Grenville came to town. Wednesday 5th.—Mr. Grenville, Lord Temple, and Lord Lyttelton went to the King’s Levee; he received them civilly and with an open countenance. In the evening Mr. Grenville saw Mr. Wedderburn, who held a very hostile language to the present Administration, continued to confirm all he had said and wrote during the summer, concerning Lord Bute’s dissatisfaction ; said he had great reason to believe the Duke of Northumberland was not pleased, and that he believed Earl Percy would oppose the measures of the Ministers. Reports still prevail of the Duke of Bedford and his friends having resolved to act with Lord Chatham; 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 379 these are strengthened by the Duke and Lord Chatham having frequently met at Bath1, and great civility having been shown by the Duchess of Bedford to Lady Chatham. Thursday, November 6th.—Mr. Rigby came in the morning to Mr. Grenville, and had a long conversation with him, in which he declared firmly and roundly that he would support and maintain all his former opinions; that the thing in the world which he wished the most was to see Mr. Grenville again at the head of affairs; that the Duke of Bedford was disgusted at all public situations, and saw nothing but ruin; but that so far from having made any arrangement for his friends with Lord Chatham, he was ready to oppose if he saw any ground held out to him to act upon; that he preferred Mr. Grenville to any man in England ; that he meant to see him as soon as he came to town, which would be on Sunday; and that he wished to hear what he had to say before he saw anybody else whatever. He told him, that Lord Tavistock declared a detestation of all public business, and most particularly of the House of Commons; that this dislike led him to wish to be called up to the House of Peers; not that anything was then in agitation about it, on the contrary, that he spoke slightingly of Lord Chatham, but that he was persuaded that Lord Tavistock meant, if possible, to decline standing again for Bedfordshire. Mr. Grenville received a letter since he came to town 1 “ Gilly” Williams, in a letter to Selwyn, dated from Bath, at this time says,—“Lord Chatham is here with more equipage, household, and retinue, than most of the old patriarchs used to travel with in ancient days. He comes nowhere but to the Pump-room; there he makes a short essay and retires.”—George Selwyn and his Contemporaries, vol. ii. p. 60. 380 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, from Mr. Fraser, which had been round by Wotton, pressing him earnestly to come to town, and with words as if some immediate change was on the carpet. He came this evening to Mr. Grenville. The business referred to was the desire Sir Fletcher Norton and others of Lord Bute’s friends had to act with Mr. Grenville, but more particularly Sir Fletcher Norton. Mr. Fraser at the same time said he had dined with Lord Bute, who had inquired what passed at Wotton and Stowe, knowing he had been at both; spoke with great regard of Mr. Grenville, but expressed surprise that Lord Temple should have allowed of the Pamphlet published immediately after his interview with Mr. Pitt. Mr. Fraser assured him, that he knew from Lord Temple himself that he was a stranger to that publication, and thought it an absurd pamphlet, with many false facts1 though some true ones, particularly with regard to what passed between him and Mr. Pitt; that those might easily be known, and to many people, because he had told them to right hand and left, thinking it right for his own justification so to do. Lord Bute was inquisitive what sort of plan Mr. Grenville meant to proceed upon in case he should be sent for, and his whole language was to disapprove of the Administration as it now stands. Friday, November 7th.—Lord Gower came to Mr. Grenville, talked with great personal regard of and to Mr. Grenville, but for the rest held the same language as Mr. Rigby had done, but rather with stronger symptoms of the Duke of Bedford and his party taking no 1 If this solecism were the expression of Lord Temple, it was also used by Junius in a letter to Draper:—“ I am sorry to tell you, Sir William, that in this article, your first fact is false”—Junius, i. 415. 3766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 381 active part, and saying that he could not separate himself from the Duke of Bedford. Mr. Jenkinson came likewise, saying the same in regard to Sir James Lowther, from whom he could not divide himself, being brought into Parliament by him, and knowing no other person who would give him a seat there. Sir Fletcher Norton’s language was great anger and disgust at the ill-treatment he had met with, but yet did not seem inclined to take any active part. Sunday, November 9th.—Mr. Grenville went to Bedford House: the Duke received him with great cordiality, with many expressions of his personal approbation of him, and his earnest wish to see him again at the head of Government, but as that could not be at present, he thought the melancholy and disordered state of the kingdom such as required all the assistance it could receive; that therefore he doubted whether he and his friends should disturb the Government; that he knew Lord Chatham disapproved of him, but that some of his errors he might possibly correct, and time at least should be given for the trial; that he himself should always adhere to and continue in the principles and opinions he had professed last year, but that as to the rest, the disturbing Government might in the present exigence be a remedy worse than the disease. Air. Grenville differed from his Grace in this opinion, staggered him by his reasoning, but did not bring him off this ground; on the contrary, when Air. Grenville said that the Court laboured industriously to divide his Grace and his friends from him (Mr. Grenville), the Duke said how could it be otherwise, where their opinions differed. 382 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, Mr. Grenville went from thence to Lord Mansfield, who talked with the highest blame of the Ministry. Monday, November 10th,—Lord Thomond dined with Mr. Grenville, and told him that he heard from the Duke of Bedford’s friends, that his Grace declared himself to be extremely satisfied with the language Mr. Grenville had held to him. There was a meeting at Bedford House, in the morning, of the Duke’s family and friends. At the Cockpit meeting1 Lord Lisburne2 was called upon, having promised to move the Address, but he excused himself, saying he was ill, and found himself utterly unable: this a little disconcerted Mr. Conway, but he immediately meant to have recourse to Mr. Augustus Hervey, who had been induced by Lord Bristol’s earnest and peremptory solicitation (though very much against his will) to second the Address, and accordingly his name was echoed round the room, but in vain, for he was playing at Quadrille with Mrs. Grenville instead of attending the meeting. Tuesday, November 11 th,—Mr. Nugent came to Mr. Grenville in the morning, holding a language so different, and seeming in opinions so contrary to Mr. Grenville’s, that he did not communicate to him the motions that were intended to be made relating to the Address in the House of Commons that day. He was just returned from Bath, where it was said he had been the Pacificator between the Duke of Bedford and Lord Chatham. Mr. Augustus Hervey moved the Address in the 1 To hear the King’s speech read. 2 Wilmot, fourth Viscount, and afterwards Earl of Lisburne. He died in 1800. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 383 House of Commons, accompanied with a direct opposition speech. Sir Alexander Gilmour1 seconded the Address. Mr. Grenville spoke to arraign the illegality of the laying the embargo upon the exportation of corn, instead of calling together the Parliament for their sanction for so doing in case it was necessary. Mr. Conway answered him in a very unsatisfactory manner. Mr. Grenville afterwards made a motion for the giving a sum of money towards the relief of the poor, but it was rejected without a division. The speakers on the side of the Court were Mr. Conway, Mr. Onslow, Mr. T. Townshend, Mr. Beckford, &c.; on the contrary party, Mr. Grenville, Mr. Harris, Mr. Whately, Mr. Pitt, Mr. Luttrell, Mr. Wedderburn, not to the question and motion proposed by Mr. Grenville, but in answer to something thrown out upon general warrants. In the House of Lords the Address was moved by Lord Spencer, and seconded by Lord Hillsborough. The speakers on the side of the Court were Lord Chatham, Lord Botetourt, Duke of Grafton, the Chancellor, Lord Northington, Duke of Richmond. Against the Court were Lord Temple, Lord Suffolk, Lord Lyttelton, Lord Buckinghamshire. The Duke of Bedford spoke strongly to the illegality of laying on the embargo without the advice of Parliament, but was against the amendment of the Address proposed by Lord Temple2. 1 M.P. for Edinburgh. 2 The Amendment proposed by Lord Temple was to express their intention of bringing in a Bill to indemnify those who had advised the embargo, in order that the Ministers might be included in the operation of the Bill. The Amendment was rejected. 384 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, Mr. Rigby being near Mr. Grenville in the House of Commons, Mr. Grenville asked him what they were to do. He answered, “We are to do nothing ; but so help me G—, as I am a man of honour, it is not by my advice.” Wednesday, November 12th.—Mr. Grenville was told that Sii’ Fletcher Norton, who had all the day before intended to speak, had a whisper given him in the House, which advised him to sit still. Mr. Grenville met Sir Gilbert Elliot at Mr. Jenkinson’s, who spoke with great eagerness upon the illegality of the laying the embargo without the sanction of Parliament, and said these were the tyrannical principles of Lord Chatham and Lord Camden ; that Mr. Dyson was of his (Sir Gilbert Elliot’s) opinion, and that they had both declared to Mr. Conway that they should both be against him if he meant to maintain the legality of that measure. Thursday, November 1 Sth.—Mr. Pitt told Mr. Grenville that Lord Percy did not go to the meeting at the Cockpit, that he held the language of opposition, and told Mr. Pitt that the manner in which his father had obtained the Dukedom was as follows:—Lord Northumberland went to Lord Chatham, and asked him whether he was to be Master of the Horse, or Lord .Hertford, that if it was the latter, he should look upon himself as excessively ill-used, and should be mortally offended, thinking that his own services in Ireland deserved at least as well to be rewarded as Lord Hertford’s. At this Lord Chatham seemed startled, said the arrangements were taken, and the offices disposed of. Lord Northumberland said that did not signify, for unless he could get a mark of the King’s favour before 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 385 Lord Hertford kissed hands, he should look upon it as the greatest affront to him and his friends, and should act accordingly. Lord Chatham said the time did not allow of it, for Lord Hertford was to kiss hands the next morning. Lord Northumberland still continued to urge his pretensions, and Lord Chatham then proffered honours to him. Lord Northumberland asked of what sort. Lord Chatham said the highest, a dukedom, if he wished it; to which Lord Northumberland said the King would not do it. Lord Chatham said he would, told him he could not then see the King himself, nor write, having the gout, but desired Lord Northumberland to go to the King from him to ask it, and to use his name, saying he came from him. This was in the evening, and Lord Northumberland objected to the lateness of the hour, and likewise to His Majesty’s being at Richmond, where he was to stay till eleven at night. Lord Chatham set all these objections aside, and Lord Northumberland went to the Queen’s house, sent in to the King to acquaint His Majesty that he was come to speak to him upon earnest business. The King came out to him, and Lord Northumberland laid his suit before him, saying he was come from Lord Chatham, and by his direction. The King coloured and looked embarrassed, said he must take some little time to consider what engagements he was under, and named Lord Cardigan. He then went into his Closet, from which he returned in a short space, and told Lord Northumberland he would create him a Duke. The report is in everybody’s mouth, that the Duke of Bedford’s party have made their bargain, which it is said Lord Chatham confirms, and their conduct on Tuesday seems conformable to this report, though Lord vol. in. c c 386 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, Temple thinks the Duke of Bedford’s speech was directly upon the ground of opposition. Tuesday, November 18th.—Mr. Conway moved for the bringing a Bill into the House of Commons, to indemnify all those who shall have acted under the Order of Council to prohibit the exportation of wheat, &c. Mr. Grenville declared his satisfaction upon hearing such a Bill was intended, but said he thought the ground on which it was proposed too narrow, and wished to have it extended to the advisers of that measure. Mr. Conway did not seem inclined to adopt the extension, and many people spoke their different opinions upon it, Aiderman Beckford among others, and said that the King had a dispensing power in times of necessity. Mr. Grenville took down those words, and moved to have them taken down by the Clerk, in order to take the sense of the House upon this dangerous doctrine, which he said had already prevailed too strongly in another place. Mr. Beckford, very angry, desired he might explain himself, and said he had been interrupted too soon, that what he meant to say was, that in cases of necessity, for salus populi, and with the advice of Council, the King had a dispensing power. Mr. Grenville ordered these words likewise to be taken down, saying they were more exceptionable and unconstitutional than the former, and that he insisted upon having the sense of the House upon them, unless the gentleman would retract them. Mr. Conway, the two Onslows, and others, got up to deprecate and to explain away what had been said, begging Mr. Grenville to suffer the words to be withdrawn ; but he continued firm, saying he meant not to be hard upon the gentle- 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 887 man from personality, but to censure such unconstitutional doctrine; and that if the House meant to avow it, and support it, it must remain on the books as an eternal blot upon that House of Commons which had let it pass without censure. Mr. Beckford was then advised by his friends to recant, which he did, and Mr. Grenville suffered the motion to be withdrawn. This was a severe censure on the Lords Northington, Chatham, and Camden, who had all holden the same language with Mr. Beckford in the House of Lords. The House of Commons did not venture to assert the legality of the act, though the Lords did. Mr. Grenville was greatly applauded and approved for this affair ; none of the Duke of Bedford’s people were down, nor any of Lord Bute’s, but the House was clearly with him, from the force of his arguments, and the temper with which they were delivered. In the evening Mr. Grenville went to Lord Mansfield, who was in the highest joy imaginable upon the slur thrown upon the opinions of the three Lords. Wednesday, November 19^A.—Many people came up to Mr. Grenville in the House of Commons to express their satisfaction of the preceding day, particularly Mr. Rigby, who complimented him very highly, and desired to come to him in the evening, which he accordingly did, resumed all the cordiality and warmth of his former conversation with him, assuring him of the strongest attachment from himself and all the Duke of Bedford’s party, blaming the resolution the Duke had taken at first coming to town, of lying by, and not’ acting, disclaiming the having been a party to it, and throwing it all upon Lord Tavistock, swearing that as he was a man c c 2 388 MR. GRENVILLE’S dIaRY November, of honour, there had been no negotiation, nor even intercourse, between them and Lord Chatham since they came from Bath. Lord Gower, Lord Weymouth, and himself, had had the strongest offers made to them, that he himself might have been restored to his office, but that neither then nor now could he bear the thoughts of being separated from Mr. Grenville1: then said all that was possible to be said in approbation and commendation of Mr. Grenville, both as a man and a Minister; said Lord Gower was in the same ideas, that the Duke of Bedford thought more highly of Mr. Grenville than of any man breathing, was perfectly satisfied of the honour of his conduct towards him, and of the language he had holden to him, and that the Duke had directed him to assure Mr. Grenville, that though he was now gone into the country, if Mr. Grenville had the slightest wish or desire to have him return, he would do it upon the first notice. Mr. Rigby said further, that he knew how temperately Mr. Grenville had spoken concerning all the reports of their union with Lord Chatham, that he wished Lord Temple had been as temperate, but that he knew his Lordship had said “ that the Bedfords were hungry,” but that if they had been so their hunger might have been satisfied if they had chosen it. 1 See the Duke of Bedford’s Diary in the Bedford Correspondence, vol. iii. p. 352; where it appears that it was from no particular delicacy with regard to a separation from Mr. Grenville, that they were prevented from accepting the offers of Lord Chatham, but that the terms were not considered sufficiently advantageous. The Duke of Bedford says, “ They agreed unanimously that they ought not at present to accept these terms, especially as there was no immediate room for any but Lord Weymouth, and feared that many might be disgusted at no further earnest being given immediately, but wished me to explain it in such a way to Lord Chatham, as not to show their dislike of entering into the King’s service, but that they must wait till the bottom should be enlarged.” 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 389 Mr. Grenville desired him to believe no reports. Mr. Rigby said it did not much signify, for they all, as a party, desired to have it understood that their wishes went to Mr. Grenville, and not to Lord Temple. There was a meeting the night before at Lord Rockingham’s, supposed to have been upon account of the removal of Lord Edgecumbe, whose white staff was given to Mr. Shelley, which greatly angered all the Rockingham party. The Bedchamber was offered to Lord Edgecumbe, but he refused it, and wanted to have the Post Office; to this Lord Chatham would not consent, and said the King’s honour had been already too much compromised. The resolution was then taken by the Rockingham party to resign. Tuesday, November %5th.—Mr. Beckford moved in the House of Commons for the House to enter into the Committee to consider of the state and wealth and conquests of the East India Company: this occasioned great debate, in which Mr. Grenville bore a very principal share with an universal applause. Lord Rockingham’s friends were all in the minority. Lord John Cavendish made a farewell speech to the Administration ; Mr. Charles Townshend inclined much to the same side; Mr. Rigby and some others of the Duke of Bedford’s party voted with Mr. Grenville ; Mr. Wed-derburn supported him ably and roundly, but Sir Fletcher Norton and all the young people of Lord Bute’s party went away; but Sir Fletcher Norton excused himself for it the next day, saying he thought the business would not come on that day, and Lord Percy, Sir James Lowther, &c., went away upon seeing him go. 390 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY November, Wednesday, November 26th.—Lord Lichfield’s chariot was seen for two hours at Lord Chatham’s door, and it is said the office of Master of the Horse was offered to him, and that he refused it. Reports of negotiation with the Duke of Bedford’s party again prevail, and it comes authentically from that quarter that Lord Gower and the Duchess are strongly for engaging with Lord Chatham, and Mr. Rigby as strongly against it. Mr. Grenville went to see Lord Mansfield last night; his opinion is that the Ministry cannot stand; he thinks (as many others do) that the King is tired of Lord Chatham, and that the Queen is particularly averse to him. He quoted some conversation he had had in the Drawing-room with Her Majesty, in which she reproached him with being a great stranger at Court, and her discourse (at a distance) expressed discontent Other intelligence confirms the same. Thursday, November 27th.—The Duke of Portland, Lord Scarborough, Lord Besborough, and Lord Monson resigned their offices. The Chamberlain’s staff was immediately given to Lord Hertford. Lord Gower was two hours in the evening with Lord Chatham. Lord George Sackville sent to Mr. Grenville to devote himself to him, and came to him that evening. Friday, November 28th.-—Sir Charles Saunders went to Court, meaning to resign, and with him Sir William Meredith and Admiral Keppel, but had a long conference with Lord Chatham in the outward room, and at his desire deferred it ’till Monday. Lord Chatham told 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 391 him the other resignations were indifferent to him, but that his and Admiral Keppel’s went to his heart. Lord Gower went this morning to Woburn, where Mr. Rigby went the day before, each to endeavour to persuade the Duke of Bedford to act according to their different opinions. In the meantime Lord Bute’s party seem to talk and to act with hostility to Lord Chatham. Saturday, November 29 th.—Lord Gower returned from Woburn, and was at the Opera. When people asked him for news he said he knew none, but seemed to have an air of satisfaction. Sunday, November 30^.—It has transpired from some of those who returned from Woburn that the Duke of Bedford is to come to town to-morrow, and to see Lord Chatham at seven o’clock, from which everybody concludes the treaty is very near completed, and that nothing now remains but to settle the final terms. The Duke of Marlborough is likewise to be in town. Monday, December 1^.—Mr. Grenville went to see Mr. Rigby, who told him it was true that the resolution was taken to accept, and that the Duke of Bedford was cominto town to settle the terms; that for his own part he had not altered his opinion upon it; that he thought they ought never to have separated themselves from Mr. Grenville ; that it disgraced and dishonoured them for ever; that he had made every representation of this kind that was possible to the Duke of Bedford^ even so far as to entreat that he (Mr. Rigby) might accept of no employment ’till the end of the Session (if it lasted so long, which he did not believe it would), but the Duke of Bedford said he must not hear of that, it would be so public a mark of his disapprobation ; that 392 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY December, in this situation, Mr. Grenville must see how impossible it was for him to separate himself from the Duke and Lord Gower, but that he saw both ruin and disgrace in the measure. Many more of the Duke’s party are as averse as he, and none for the measure except the Duchess and Lord Gower. At twelve o’clock at night, Mr. Grenville received a note from Mr. Rigby, giving him to understand that he had reason to believe the consultation had failed. Tuesday, December 2nd.—Mr. Rigby came to tell Mr. Grenville that the Duke of Bedford and Lord Chatham had disagreed, that both grew warm: Lord Chatham offered nothing more than the office of Master of the Horse for Lord Gower, Postmaster for Lord Weymouth, and Cofferer for Mr. Rigby. He spoke in a very high tone, and told the Duke more than once that the Cabinet was not afraid. The Duke took up these words after they had been twice repeated, and said he did not know what his Lordship meant by him ; that the King best knew whether he wished to have his friends in employment, and for what reason he had sent to him; that for his part he neither wished nor meant to force open the door of the Cabinet. They parted, having concluded upon nothing. Lord Chatham desired to see him again, which he is to do accordingly tomorrow. The Duke of Bedford asked Mr. Rigby what language Mr. Grenville held ; he told him, that of a man of honour and a gentleman, and with great temper and civility to his Grace. Sir Edward Hawke is appointed First Lord of the Admiralty, and Sir Percy Brett and Lord Lisburne the two minor Lords. (Mr. Jenkinson came into the Admiralty in the room of Lord Lisburne, because the latter 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 393 could not be chosen again for Berwick, where Lord Percy refused to give him his interest.) Colonel Harcourt to be Groom of the Bedchamber in the room of Mr. Keppel. Lord Chatham came to Bedford House as soon as he had been with the King, and told the Duke of Bedford that His Majesty had taken his resolution to dispose of all the vacant offices, which put an end to all further negotiation. He brought words of civility to the Duke of Bedford, saying that His Majesty thought very kindly of Lord Tavistock, and would very willingly make him a Peer; this the Duke refused, and Lord Chatham, with many professions to the Duke, withdrew. The Princess of Brunswick was to go the next day to Woburn, but sent word she was ill, and could not go: she is supposed to have been the person employed by the King to move Lord Gower to bring about all this absurd negotiation, in which the poor Duke of Bedford’ is so much disgraced. His Grace brought a long list of friends to Lord Chatham, for whom he required offices. Lord Chatham offered Master of the Horse, Postmaster, and Cofferer; said his Grace might take them or leave them, and would never advance a step further l. Wednesday, December 3rd.—Mr. Grenville received a letter from Mr. Jenkinson, acquainting him that he was going to kiss hands for one of the Lords of the Admiralty, to which Mr. Grenville returned no answer, and forbid his porter ever to let him into his house again2. He was part of Saturday night with Mr. Gren- 1 See Bedford Correspondence, vol. iii. page 358, and Chatham Correspondence, vol. iii. pp. 134-8. 2 Wraxall, in his Historical Memoirs, thus describes the appearance 394 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY December, ville at a meeting with Sir Fletcher Norton, Mr. Wed-derburn, and others. The Duke of Ancaster kissed hands for Master of the Horse: all this looks so like Lord Bute and Lord Chatham having an understanding together, that it can no longer he doubted. Sir Fletcher Norton and Mr. Wedderburn as yet remain firm to Mr. Grenville, and are very angry with Lord Bute. They both supported Mr. Grenville in the House of Commons upon the second reading of the Indemnity Bill to-day. Lord Mountstuart moved for Mr. Jenkinson’s writ. Thursday, December ^th.—Mr. Grenville received a letter from Mr. Nugent, acquainting him that he had accepted the office of First Commissioner of the Board of Trade. Mr. Stanley is appointed Cofferer, and the Duke of Bolton Governor of the Isle of Wight. Friday, December 5th.—Lord Harcourt called upon and character of Mr. Charles Jenkinson, afterwards Baron Hawkesbury and Earl of Liverpool:—“ In his person he rose above the common height, but his lank limbs and figure were destitute of elegance or of grace. The expression of his countenance I find difficult to describe, as, without having in his face any lines strongly marked, it was not destitute of deep intelligence. Reflection and caution seemed to be stamped on every feature, while his eyes were usually, even in conversation, directed downwards towards the earth. Something impervious and inscrutable seemed to accompany and to characterize his demeanour. His manners were polite, calm, and unassuming; grave, if not cold; but not distant, without any mixture of pride or affectation. In society, though reserved, he was not silent, and though guarded on certain topics, communicative on ordinary subjects. No man in official situation was supposed to understand better the principles of trade, navigation, manufactures, and revenue. As a speaker in the House of Commons he rose seldom, nor did he ever weary the patience of his auditors. No ray of wit, humour, or levity pervaded his speeches. All was fact and business. Such qualifications, even independent of the supposed favour of the Sovereign, necessarily rendered him an object of respect and attention to every party.”—Vol. ii. p. 209. 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 395 Mr. Grenville, but not finding him, writ him a letter to say how sorry he was to have missed him; he then endeavours to palliate Mr. Jenkinson’s conduct. The Indemnity Bill was reported this day. Mr. Charles Townshend spoke warmly on the side of Administration, and attacked Mr. Grenville and Lord Temple: the former repulsed the attack, and was much applauded. Mr. Conway said little. There was a division: the numbers were 48 to 166. All the Rockingham party, and most of the Bute party, voted with the majority. Sir Fletcher Norton and Mr. Wedderburn supported Mr. Grenville. Saturday, December 6th.—Mr. Grenville sent to desire Lord I Jarcourt would appoint a time to see him. He came to him in the evening, endeavoured to say what he could in favour of Mr. Jenkinson, but was forced to own that he had behaved unhandsomely to Mr. Grenville. He said Lord Chatham had sent to him on the Sunday to make the offer, which he then declined, that he was pressed again upon it on the Tuesday, when he accepted, after having seen Lord Bute, and received the Princess of Wales’s commands, &c. He never seems to have remembered his connection with Mr. Grenville, which Lord Harcourt could not nor did not attempt to justify. Lord Harcourt had a long conversation with Mr. Grenville, in the course of which he told him that he had no intercourse with Lord Chatham, that he disliked him; that he saw and lamented the sad state of the kingdom, but did not think this Ministry could last three months, and that he believed there was great interior discontent among them; that, as a proof of it, the Duke of Grafton asked in the House of Lords 396 MR. GRENVILLE’S DIARY December, whether Mr. Keppel had been dismissed from the Bedchamber, or had resigned, for that, for his part, he knew nothing of it. Lord Harcourt told Mr. Grenville that the appointment of Colonel Harcourt came from the King to him, and not from Lord Chatham, whom he did not even visit, and had been much surprised at his Lordship’s having left his name at his door the day before, though he had not the smallest acquaintance with him. Monday, December Sth.—The Indemnity Bill came for the last time into the House of Commons, Mr. Conway agreeing to some words of alteration proposed by Mr. Grenville, which prevented any debate. Tuesday, December 9th.—The East India business came before the House. Mr. Beckford made a motion for some papers to be laid before the House. Mr. Grenville opposed it, and proposed to have the business put off for three months ; there was a division upon this, of 54 to 164. Many people spoke on that day, particularly all the new converts, such as Lord North, Mr. Nugent, Mr. Stanley, &c. The most memorable event of the day was Mr. Conway’s speech, who spoke doubtfully upon the permanency of the Administration, and twice affectedly called himself a passenger. The House sat till past eleven o’clock. Wednesday, December 10th.—The Indemnity Bill was read the second time in the House of Lords. The debate was opened by the Duke of Richmond with great warmth and inveteracy against Lord Chatham, whose insolent behaviour to the first nobility in the kingdom he described in high colouring. Lord Chatham answered with great heat and anger; the House inter- 1766. OF MEMORABLE TRANSACTIONS. 397 posed upon Lord Chatham defying the Duke of Richmond to produce the instances of such a behaviour, and the latter saying that was perhaps not a proper place, but that if he would come to him in private he would satisfy him upon that subject. They were called to order, and their words given that it should go no further. The Duke excused himself to the House, and said he was sorry if he had given any offence to the House, but that he knew truth was not to be spoken at all times, nor in all places. The Chancellor and Lord Northington stuck to their dispensing doctrine, and maintained it to be law. Lord Chatham shuffled between necessity and law. Lord Shelburne attacked Lord Mansfield, who made the most eloquent speech, with the most spirited attack upon Lord Chatham and the two lawyers, that ever was heard. Lord Temple, Lord Suffolk, Lord Lyttelton, and others spoke on the side of opposition, but Lord Mansfield far the best of any1. Mr. Grenville went into the country for the Christmas holidays. The House met again on the 15th of January. Lord Chatham had the gout at Bath, came as far as Marlborough in his way to London, but saying he was worse, turned back again and went to Bath. 1 The debate upon this occasion was published by Almon in the form of a pamphlet, written by Lord Temple, assisted, as was supposed, by Lord Lyttelton and Mr. Mackintosh. It was entitled A Speech against the Suspending and Dispensing Prerogative. Although it ran through several editions, it is now of uncommon occurrence, but it will be found reprinted in vol. xvi. of the Parliamentary History. END OF VOL. III. Woodfall and Kinder, Printers, Angel Court, Skinner Street, London. o DA Temple, Richard Temple 501 Grenville-Temple, Earl T3A4 The Grenville papers 1852 v.3 ~“«8^p*waF •* PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE CARDS OR SLIPS FROM THIS POCKET UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO LIBRARY